Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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Pop quiz, fluid dynamics and audio

Why does placing 2 or 3 bowls of ice cold water out in front of the speakers improve the sound? 



glupson
I see that we fully agree on movement of the air around the airplane wings. The only difference is that I wrote it more concisely (absolute or relative) and you more descriptively. 

>>>>But I was the one who pointed out the object doesn’t have to be moving for there to be laminar flow or turbulent flow. And that’s really the most important part.

glupson
However, sound waves emanating from most of the speakers can hardly be called "laminar flow".

>>>>If they’re not laminar flow what are they? Are standing waves laminar flow? Are reflected waves laminar flow? Are they turbulent flow? Multiple choice.

+1 Elizabeth

And the answer to Geoff’s quiz is

It depends. If the fridge that supplied the ice cold water has an ordinary stock fuse then there is no improvement. If the fridge used to supply the ice cold water has an SR Blue aftermarket fuse then the sound will improve more significantly than any other tweak Evah!