BaerWald vs VPI setup protractors

@rauliruegas,

I wouldn’t call someone ignorant because he takes a different point of view than you do. There is no one "correct" way to set HTA. There is no consensus on what theoretical distortions can be heard. There’s no consensus as to whether a theoretical distortion on an outside groove is more or less disturbing than the same theoretical distortion on an inside groove. There is no consensus about the relative importance of HTA, azimuth and SRA. Though I try to set Lofgren A as close as possible, I am amused with all the talk here about extreme precision. One protractor, believe it or not, actually has a vernier gauge.

Case in point, HW of VPI, who I think has been accepted an a perceptive analog listener by the audio community, has written that he prefers to listen to an HTA setup that is quite far from the conventional alternatives. IIRC he prefers the 2 tangencies to be set: one relatively close in the inner grooves and one outside the grooves entirely. This yields high theoretical distortion numbers. Apparently, though, his hearing perception is most disturbed by the crossover from inside to outside the tangency, so he limits it to only one per record side. He also writes that regardless of the theoretical distortion measure, distortions nearer to the inside grooves are more disturbing to the listener.

As I wrote earlier, there being no correct HTA, each person is free to put the distortions where thy want. Since there is HTA distortion all over the disk, except at one or two grooves, your admonition: "enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS" is kind of ridiculous in this context.

Dear @melm : What did you not understand of what I posted?:

"  0.18% in that precise groove and that gentleman said produce a " sonic impact " that could means he can hear it ! .................................................................... whom can detect ( human been. ) a diference of only: 0.003 ! ! and this trend goes groove after groove and is imposiible...."


@melm , the noise floor of your audio system is way higher than that distortion levels and by a wide marging.

Obviously that only an ignorant of those facts can posted as that gentleman on that OP regards. 

And an ignorant person is that who knows nothing on a specific subject like the one we are dialoging here.

And if you insit in posts as your latest then you are an ignorant too and not because you don't agree with me but because you can't prove I'm wrong. Those values were measured through the alignment calculations.

Come on melm.

R.

If I was as (informed) as you all on this subject, I'd be more interested in listening/vs/arguing.

Dear @slaw : That's precesily what I do each single day_ Enjoy the Music.

If you know enough in what ever audio subject and you read a non-sense post as the one by syntax where he only speaks because has mouth but he gave no single fact where he founded his post:

Do you stay quiet when those kind of false almost stupid post only contaminates to each single audiophile?
Maybe you can stay quiet but I think that each one of us that post something in audio forums have a responsability with all other members and the first responsability is not share false statements.

Well, that's me.

R.

melm,  I wish that HW would get on this thread and confirm or modify your interpretation of what he supposedly prefers in terms of cartridge alignment. Because your description of his preference doesn't make complete sense.  If one wants only a single point of tangency on the playing surface of the LP, for whatever reason, one is best off using an "underhung" tonearm, of which there are only two that I know of: the RS Labs RS-A1 and the Viv Float.  These tonearms have no headshell offset angle;  doing away with headshell offset may afford some sonic advantages in and of itself, based on my experiences with the RS-A1 tonearm.  Underhung tonearms develop quite a bit of tracking angle error as the arm moves away from its single point of tangency to the groove, much more than conventional tonearms. Yet I hear no problems I can relate to tracking angle error when using the RS-A1.