Acoustat6, my loud comment was half in jest (I did have a smiley after the comment), but those are the listening volumes for me especially for some of the more rambunctious guilty pleasure types of music I enjoy.
BTW, when a topic such as loudness, ear fatigue, etc. comes up, we need to consider that some to many of the responses we read have as much to do with system compression, congestion, time-smear, improper or no line-conditioning, improper or no vibration mgmt, etc., etc..
In other words, without properly addressing some to many of these elements, 65 db, can make even a fine system sound too loud. If you know what I mean.
Am I into bikes? Am I ever!!! I'll just never drive one for fear of road rash induced by others.
-IMO