Cartridge Loading- Low output M/C

Dear @catcher10: Usually my first take is to follow the manufacturer advise, at the end he is the designer and was him who voiced the cartridge but it's here precisely at the cartridge voicing where belongs the " problems " and I said problems because I don't find other word to explain it.

It's obvious that other of what math tells to the designer he makes the voicing with a very specific system/room that normally we just have not any reference/names of the audio items in his system so we all have a heavy " handycap " to " load " over our shoulders.

Each one of our systems/rooms are different too and those maths are not taking in count all the system/rooms variables as does not takes in count the more problematic of all variables that are we audiophiles, you and me with different sound/music knowledge  levels and with different system/room targets for those sound and MUSIC.

To deal with so many variables is almost impossible to fix it manipulating one parameter as the load impedance or capacitance or both of them..

Through my audio life I learned from several audiophiles, item designers and even reviewers or audio true roockies. 
If we always are willing to learn we can do it coming those " lessons " from any one and everywhere and we learn when we achieve a new knowledge or when we confirm what we already know or when we learn what not to do and why.

I'm a follower of what I learned and what I tested about and I have a " simple " rule to put my errors/omisions at minimum and is thatv through some years now I try that at each single link in my system/room chain everykind of distortions/deviations/noises/resonances, or the name you can give, stays at minimum to be truer to the recorded on those LP grooves. I know that my targets about are not easy to acomplish and I'm still working on but this " simple rule " tells me that if everything is " fine " in the system/room my taste or any one taste is not critical or really important because trhough that system/room  what you listen always will like you because staying truer to the recording you can stay not so far aways from the reference that's live music.

I'm not biased with my taste, I'm biased with the MUSIC and I know how instruments performs in near field that is how the recording microphones are at the recording sessions.
I don't have control over what's in the recordings but I can have some control through the playing overall proccess and that 47K loading for LOMC ones is out of question for me specially after tested.

I think that overall subject with we audiophiles is that the AHEE teached us to trust in what we LIKE when several times what we like is just wrong but it's what we like, we are biased that way.

I owned at least 3 VDH Colibri and in all those cartridges the manufacturer advise with out matters its output level the loading figure was 50ohms-500ohms. I listened with different loading settings inside that range and always finished at 100 ohms and I can tell you that at 500 ohms the cartridge in my system is just unlistenable , just imagine at 47K: out of question.

I think that we can't hide our ears sensitivite losting or system/room " problems " behind that 47K loading impedance.

Again, first than doing that we have to make an exhaustive check up on each link of our system/room chain and why not: that a professional makes us a ears cleaning every 3-4 months and stay away from very high SPL for more than 2-3 minutes and of course attend at least one day a week to listen live music.

No, I don't buy that 47K/capacitance issue because no one of his proponents prove me that is the way to go and because my tests confirms is a wrong road to go. At least for now. Maybe, I need to learn or not something I'm missing here or not.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

Dear @catcher10: I for got:

""" I have my own fully proccess to make audio items evaluations in my system through listening sessions. """

Through my self " designed " evaluation proccess I don’t listen to the " woods/forest " because we just can be losted inside it.

Years ago I choosed very carefully the specific LP tracks ( different LPs. ) to use in that overall proccess and at each track 1-3 minutes that gives me/shows me specific characteristics of sounds ( mainly at both frequency range extremes that’s where music belongs in a home system/room. )

Always use same tracks for the same specific characteristics. In this way the proccess is repeatable and through the time with absolute control on it. I even know exactly the tone of a click in the track when exist on it.

One of the advantages to stay away from the " woods/forest " is that first I can’t be losted second that I test at an specific branch in an specific tree insided the forest and third is that with out doubt I know for sure what to look for for the evaluation validity/certainty. There is no " land " to mistakes no matter what.


I have to say that for me was and is a very useful tool that I can use with any system/room and always determine what is happening down there.

Btw, Allaerts is another example of what I posted and @amg56 is rigth. I own the MC2 Finish Gold and J.Allaerts is extremely precise not only in the specific loading but VTF too where in both the range to move is a minimum one.
Btw, was my Allaerts cartridge the sample used to the review in Stereophile, I borrowed to MF because the manufacturer " never " has cartridges for that, is always over-sold.

R.

@rauliruegas 
Maybe I misunderstood your previous message about you loading at 47K ohms.....all is good.
And yes room acoustics and many other issues we cannot really control come into play.

I have not had my ears cleaned by a professional in many year, I don't remember the last time this happened, should look into that :)

Cheers

I am using a humble Musical Surroundings Phonomena II. My daily driver is a Hana SL mounted on a Sumiko Premier MMT with continuous wiring to the RCAs; ergo shorter or lower capacitance cable is not an easy option. The integrated is a Primare I32 and for cartridge set-up I usually use Stax SRX MK 3 headphones, so only the I32's pre-amp is in the loop.

The internal impedance of the Hana is 30 Ohms. The Phonomena has a capacitive loading switch which I set to 200 pF, the lower option. Between 475 and 100,000 ohms I must confess that the differences I think I hear in the music are so small they may be imagined. Is this to be expected or should I run immediately to a good Otolarygologist?
What I do hear is that the hiss and ticks between tracks are less at 50 and 100 kOhms.