Cartridge Loading- Low output M/C

Hanna only states a lower limit of 400 Ohms and Denon a lower limit of 100 Ohms for the DL-301 mkII. No upper limits given. Yesterday I listened to Garcia's Run for the Roses, I have a white label copy that I haven't played much so it's in great shape. I compared 2000 Ohms to 100 kOms. The bass actually sounded more profound with more of the pluck featured at 100k. But that's just one LP so far.

Dear @catcher10: Yesterday I made in deep tests again along the cantilever stiffnees issue.

Wyn posted in this cantilever regards: """ certainly not on tracking which is demonstrably false based on IM tests on tracking performance that I have incidentally performed as a function of load. """


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I load mine with 60 ohms (as do many users) and I find that the resolution and dynamics is excellent while maintaining a natural timbre, tonal balance and micro/macro dynamics while not creating the unnatural etched image that many "high resolution" MC cartridges produce.
From my tests I agree with him. If other gentlemans insist about that cantilever stiffness then could be just negligible and with no real significance. Cartridge tracking habilities are manteined regarding how we are loading it. """

That leaves all to PS units dependent and Wyn said: " perhaps ".

After the yesterday overall tests the behavior of my system/room confirms what I posted before: higher resolution/dynamics, etc, etc. at 100 ohms, way better than the 47k.

Btw, I loaded the Kleos at 100 ohms with true top quality performance and before that the Titan, Helikon or Evolve.


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This is why you need to try different settings and listen, but you should understand what is going on at 100 ohms vs 1000 ohms vs 100K  """

the key word in your statement is: " understand ". Remember one of latest posts where I said and explain why we need to have a " bullet proof evaluation/test proccess? and forrest vs tree's branch?

I can tell you that I understand it and I hope every one can understand it too because it's really easy to be losted in the " forest " or in that often audiophile " mistake " : " I like it " .

Thank's for your answer.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

@rauliruegas I have zero issue with your post and hearing results. My point is try all settings you can and decide on what sounds best to you. All phono stages and cartridges perform differently, I am sure there are tons of people using Lyra carts that load at 100 ohms.....And if that works for them I cannot disagree.

My system does not sound like yours and my ears do not hear like yours.........
All good.....Cheers

You are rigth about and I did not think you have an issue with my posts.
R.

Ok. Cardas responded that their Clear 4x24 is 16 pF/ft giving me 52.5 pF from the arm base to the PII. That most closely aligns with J. Carr’s first example at 32 pF. (Thanks @almarg , http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?15077-Cartridge-Loading-A-Misnomer&p=258578&vie...)
That would suggest that an optimal load would be between 267 and 464 Ohms....EXCEPT for his footnote "However, the heavier the load on the cartridge, the worse the dynamics and resolution.

After further listening comparisons I am back at 475. I suppose I should just go back to listening for enjoyment rather than critically; because to tell the truth, I might feel that 1,000 Ohms is best tomorrow. I think my ears have been through too many years and front row concert seats to split hairs this fine.

Looking at Mr. Carr’s results, 660 Ohms is probably the best compromise for his Kleos. But what the hell. I don't have a Kleos and in reading the above referenced thread further, audiophiles with much more experience and knowledge than me (not to mention better hearing and listening skills) don’t agree. I Have 2 new MoFi LPs coming in the mail. I Think I’ll just relax with them.