Where do I go from here?


    • Marantz AV-7005, pre/pro (with balanced outputs and 1.4a HDMI);  Rotel RMB-1565, surrounds and center;  Rotel RKB-650, mains w/ bi-amping;  Martin Logan Motion 20, mains;  Martin Logan Motion 8 Center; Klipsch SW-10, subKEF iQ-5, surroundsKlipsch RS-41 II, surround backs
  • Alright y'all, here is your chance to help out the newbie with your thoughts and opinions. Thanks in advance for what you may offer.  I have the above system, which is sounding really nice, with many of the qualities I've been looking for, but the upgraditis is creeping in, (again, sigh) and I am wondering which of the components may represent the weak link to my music listening nirvana?  As some my recognize, I recently added the Motion 20's to the lineup, much to my satisfaction, but where might I go from here.  I'm thinking my better half may let me get away with another $1500-2000 before I'm sleeping with the system and not her, LOL.  Since I'm more interested in the musicality of the system, listening to a mix of female vocal, rock, and dipping into the ambient realm now and then, I'm considering the replacement of the Rotel RKD-650 with something in a nice stereo configuration, possibly 3-channel to pick up the center. I'm really looking to broaden and deepen the soundstage as much as anything.  What do you think?
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    possibly 3-channel to pick up the center.
    If you want proper 3D soundstage, I'd stay away from a center channel unless its a dialogue channel for the home theater; even then they can be marginal...
    If you want more 3D, tubes are something to try.
    Thanks, soix.  I went with the Marantz pre for the 1.4a HDMI in/outs.  I have the 4k tv which looks very nice through the pre/pro (it also passively passes signal in standby) , and I actually just recently moved away from the (Onkyo) receiver for more flexibility.  The other matter is that much of my listening is done through the DLNA feature of the pre with Media Monkey for the several thousand flac songs I have on hard disc.  I need to check the DVD palyer tho, it may also have that feature.  (I need to get a rack soon, LOL)
    Thanks, atmasphere.  I wouldn't need the 3rd channel for listening as it would be strictly a dialog channel for movies.  I've been toying with the notion of tubes for awhile.  I see several used options in the sub $2k range.  Any I should avoid or consider more strongly?

    I agree with soix on the pre/pro "premp section" argument.  I also agree with many others that small tweaks in your system will help (such as placement, etc.)  I also see that you've covered the idea that front 3 speakers need to match as closely as possible.  However, I think that there are definitely a couple things on your equipment that you should know:

    - The Marantz AV-7005 is very nice because Marantz uses discrete analog stages.  However, the 7005 uses the older version of the HDAM discrete analog circuits.  These have slow slew rates and are much warmer/slower and laid back.  The result can be sound that is too warm/slow that does not have enough attack/detail.  If you feel you are lacking attack/detail/resolution, maybe look at a newer Marantz.  The AV7702 is the cheapest pre/pro that has the new HDAM circuits.

    - Soix's idea of adding a high end 2-channel preamp is a good one if you don't care much about home theater and ALSO have different sources you listen to (such as an external DAC).  If you use the Marantz AV7005 as a DAC, then adding a preamp won't give you much because you are still dependent on the Marantz for DAC/source.  It would be much better to upgrade the Marantz 7005 is this case. 

    - It's great that you removed the RKB-650 distribution amp and the bi-amp configuration.  The RMB-1565 is going to be better.  However, it is Class D with a smallish power supply and it is my opinion that this amp sound rather flat and sterile.  If you really don't care much about home theater (which it sounds like), then the Parasound A21 comes to mind.  It is going to have much more punch, depth of soundstage, air and resolution than the Rotel RMB amp.  If you do want home theater quality, it looks like there is a 3 channel Parasound A31 on audiogon for $2100 (which is just above your threshold).

    Thanks, aux.  Good stuff right there.  I am going to look into the Parasound.  I have seen them listed and read some reviews and they seem to be well received in the audiophile community.  I am also considering upgrading the DVD to something better, which would then become my source for more of my listening.