Where do I go from here?


    • Marantz AV-7005, pre/pro (with balanced outputs and 1.4a HDMI);  Rotel RMB-1565, surrounds and center;  Rotel RKB-650, mains w/ bi-amping;  Martin Logan Motion 20, mains;  Martin Logan Motion 8 Center; Klipsch SW-10, subKEF iQ-5, surroundsKlipsch RS-41 II, surround backs
  • Alright y'all, here is your chance to help out the newbie with your thoughts and opinions. Thanks in advance for what you may offer.  I have the above system, which is sounding really nice, with many of the qualities I've been looking for, but the upgraditis is creeping in, (again, sigh) and I am wondering which of the components may represent the weak link to my music listening nirvana?  As some my recognize, I recently added the Motion 20's to the lineup, much to my satisfaction, but where might I go from here.  I'm thinking my better half may let me get away with another $1500-2000 before I'm sleeping with the system and not her, LOL.  Since I'm more interested in the musicality of the system, listening to a mix of female vocal, rock, and dipping into the ambient realm now and then, I'm considering the replacement of the Rotel RKD-650 with something in a nice stereo configuration, possibly 3-channel to pick up the center. I'm really looking to broaden and deepen the soundstage as much as anything.  What do you think?
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    Thanks, aux.  Good stuff right there.  I am going to look into the Parasound.  I have seen them listed and read some reviews and they seem to be well received in the audiophile community.  I am also considering upgrading the DVD to something better, which would then become my source for more of my listening.
    So here are my takeaways.  I really don't want to add another pre to the line-up, and at the moment, the upgrade to the Marantz is off the table.  It seems that in order to not add to the complexity of the system, I can utilize the 'Pure Direct' (Source Direct) feature of the Marantz to get the best signal passed through the pre.  If I then relegate the RMB-1565 to the surround channels for the digital work of theater and use a decent stereo tube or dual mono amplifiers for my front speakers for 2 channel listening, I should gain the most with the least amount of restructuring the system.  Would you guys (and maybe gals) agree this a fair assessment?

    Another thing you could do if you feel the Marantz is a bit slow or laid back is do a fuse upgrade.  A Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme fuse will give more attack and detail to the sound, as well as improving overall solidness of the sound itself.  You will have to take off the top part of the case to see what is on the main power supply board (just behind the power cord socket).  Typically, a processor will have one fuse, usually about 1A in capacity.  You can push this to 2A if you want a bit more punch/authority in the sound.  Power cord upgrade can help as well.

    It sounds like you have a plan.  The decision between tube and solid state has it's own decision process.  I would see if you could listen to some tube amps to get an idea on whether you would like them or not.  The tube amps may have a nice texture and sound, but they will likely be warmer/slower sounding than solid-state and may lack the deep punch and power of bass compared to the large power supply of the Parasound A21.  The A21 may seem lacking in the texture and bloom that tube amps have.  It depends on what you want.

    After reading some reviews it sounds like the ML Motion series may be geared to be more of a "front row" perspective rather than further back, so meaningfully increasing depth of stage may not be in the cards. Apparently pulling them out further into the room didn’t help too much, which would make sense if they’re designed more for an upfront presentation.

    Since this is a system being used for both multichannel and stereo I’d shy away from tube amps. No sense burning up tubes to watch TV or movies IMO. Although your speakers are stated to be 90dB efficient they’re also rated at a nominal 4 Ohms impedance, which means they probably dip below that somewhere in the frequency range (the Motion 40s drop below 3 Ohms at around 100Hz so likely the 20s dip around there too). Anyway, for all these reasons I’d avoid tube amps. I’d also recommend a good stereo amp rather than monoblocks -- no strong reason to pay up for two boxes in this situation, again IMO.

    Just FYI, adding a stereo preamp to your system wouldn’t add much complexity at all -- I know that sounds a little hard to believe, but it’s true especially if you get a preamp or integrated with a HT bypass. My best and most cost-effective advice, and what I’d absolutely do myself if I was in your situation, would be to add a good solid state integrated amp. You’re only adding one box to your system, and you’re killing two VERY important birds with one stone by adding a better dedicated stereo preamp and amp. Going direct from your Marantz doesn’t change the fact that the signal is still passing through the preamp section (and the rest of the electronic morass) of the prepro, and at that point the damage is done. Something like a Parasound Halo Integrated or a Hegel H190 (among others) would likely bring very significant improvements to your 2-channel experience. Here’s a link to an H190 review that actually uses your speakers in the review system: https://www.soundstagesimplifi.com/index.php/equipment-reviews/29-hegel-music-systems-h190-dac-integ...

    Incidentally there’s an almost new H190 available here now at a $1000 discount. Best of luck in whatever you end up doing.

    Again, great advice, thank you (all) for your insight.  I am absorbing all the good info and will take my time and not rush into anything.  Perhaps a little more tweaking before I pull the trigger on a bigger ticket item.