Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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I can certainly understand why you would express a preference for cows over humans and groundhogs.
Cows were in a much nicer environment and were livelier. This last video was destructive and overall negatively-charged.

Robert, is the story now that you didn’t work for RoomTune? I’m confused. So Michael introduced you to Brent’s audiopoint in your store, you moved to Ohio and worked at the RoomTune factory. And now your saying you weren’t there? Second why are you obsessing over a brief period of employment in the 90’s? Who cares how much stock Michael owned in RoomTune? Michael is RoomTune. It reads like your trying to make a story line that changes as facts come out or even that you are trying to change the facts themselves. Robert no offence but why would I or anyone else wish to call you about your again brief stay at RoomTune for 9 months back in the 90’s?

I’m sure MG has had lots of employees during the original RoomTune years when there were many mom and pop stereo stores who carried the product. It’s my understanding that MG was either developing or traveling tuning up people during the 90’s. That’s what the magazines were indicating. I’m not trying to be disrespectful Robert but hasn’t it already been shared that you were an employee of MG’s or RoomTune or whatever the company was for 9 months? My question is who cares?

Who would know who is right in this employment saga, but maybe there should be some peace treaty on that one. Let’s pretend that it was so long ago that everyone already forgot details that make the story.

"Who cares how much stock Michael owned in RoomTune?"
Robert does, apparently. Was it really listed on stock exchange? Just curious and, guys, this is not meant to start a fight.