Are there any really good cd cleaners out there?

Exactly--you can get them wet. I run it under water with a scant amount of dish soap between my fingers then dry with a micro fiber cloth--never a scratch or residue.  Cleaners are a waste of time and worry.  

I have been using Shinola for years with great results. Especially on Netflix discs that sometimes won’t read. It is available at Elusivedisc.com 24.99 per bottle.

91% isopropanol is all you need! Give a CD a good spray rinse and let air dry for a few minutes!

jim204.....jafreeman....roberjeman.....Thanks , will def try that.... 

My favorite one is Macallan.