Just got ruined by a pair of Treo CTs

@2chfreak  +1   John Rutan is everything people say on A'gon.  He has a comprehensive knowledge of both gear and tunes.  He know how to set up a system to maximize its abilities and is an absolute straight talker.  No BS from him.👍

tomic601 there was no toe in.

Try the new JBL L-100 speakers 4 Grand

@rwwear 

• i would suggest a look at recent show photos of Vandersteens ( Munich for example ) which should give your friend some idea about a starting point.
  
• i use a Leica disto and a laser level to setup speakers, both tools under a hundred $ total
• use blue tape on listening chair and or wall behind chair.
• tweeters should not be aimed right at ears
• check tilt also after careful measurement of both ear height and distance to speaker, verofy correct number of washers...
• i am available for a telephone call to run thru setup...
• zero toe in rare.....

I just got a new laser level and Bosch laser measuring tool.  Tomic, where should I have the tweeters pointing on a rear wall?  I have a long room and sit about 8' or so from the speakers.  Johnny set it up and I'm wanting to dial it in a spec.  I will say that after owning Treo's (non CT) and now Quatro's, the bass in my room is outstanding.  I have a lot with too many open walls so bass is brutal for me to get right. I may even get the new Vandy subs or just change out to Richard's new amps when they come out.  I may just not be getting the dynamic drive I want from teh Ayre AX5/20, but I think I probably do.  Hmmm.....choices..

Those 1's are sick good for the price.  I love the Belles Aria and have heard that the new Belles separates are SICK good.  Very cool for them. Will need to get down to Johnny's soon to hear all of them.  Will figure out getting a ride there, lol...