Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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jf47t,

https://www.michaelgreenaudio.net/roomtune-rtd2

Slide show on above page (I think it is slide 9) has decibel with capital D, but abbreviation as db. It would be more correctly dB and decibel. Not a biggie, but just so you know.

>>>>A typical English major comment. “Not a biggie.” You got that right. 😝

jf47t,

Feel free to use any of my comments for improvement of your website. That is why I wrote them. If Michael had accepted that offer at Oneonda, he would have needed to pay attention to those details and corrected his students so they could improve. However, it is much easier to notice and correct afterwards, the way I just did, than not to make a mistake while creating something. It is easy to overlook details while creating.

Also, thank you for that link to the instruments company (Conn & Selmer). It is, in fact, attaining such knowledge that I find this thread useful for. Something I would have never looked up myself and that I have no knowledge about. No use for it, either, but I like learning.

If I could give you that fame you say I am acquiring here, I would give it to you in a heartbeat. You seem to crave and need it much more than I do.
thecarpathian,

Thanks. I just write what comes to my mind when seeing what is presented around here. Or there.
It appears we have a meeting of the minds, as it were. 🧠 🧠 ♥️