Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


michaelgreenaudio

To jf47t  who plays both sides of the fence.


As the trolls on this thread become more desperate as well as former short term employees of Michael's (guys who didn't cut the grade) they are talking without actually walking.

Guess you’re attempting to spout off at Peter or me in referencing your difficulties understanding why we are no longer employees of that guy who has only twenty-five (25) year old images of himself posted on his site?

According to your discrediting statement we talk and do not walk however in our meager defense, please examine our list of talkers or whatever name calling you wish to provide today.

We are a professional organization in comparison to your extremely limited current vision of audio related talent. Here is a list of our company “runners”.


http://starsoundtechnologies.com/aboutUs.php


Now please show us yours…

Star Sound



audiopoint,

Aside of yours and Michael Green's disagreement here, it Is interesting to see your point regarding tuning. To those who have not jumped on board, and probably never will, it shows some other view. I, personally, wish I had more technical knowledge and time to discuss it deeper, but I am glad I can learn your points. Thanks for participating.
"...of that guy who has only twenty-five (25) year old images of himself posted on his site?"

Ouch.
Robert, you say ground the transformer to the chassis. I say isolate the chassis and everything else inside the chassis from the transformer. Why anyone would wish to drive the circuit boards and everything else with 60 Hz vibration is beyond me. If it doesn’t make sense it’s not true. To use the LIGO analogy if you ground the surroundings to the mirrors you see the vibration not the gravity waves. Follow?
prof,

"If it doesn’t make sense it’s not true."

Did you read this?