Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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prof,

"If it doesn’t make sense it’s not true."

Did you read this?
prof is on holiday. Remember? Of course if he was a real audiophile he’d at least take a peek on his iPhone. I guess he just doesn’t want to be bothered. 😥 I suspect he probably brought along Zen and the Art of Debunkery to read on the plane. My guess is there will be a sudden flurry of well thought out pseudo arguments soon as he returns.
Geoff
Your springs present no exit path for resonance to vacate the parts or the chassis..Ours do and furthermore they reject energy from below that attempts to re enter either by hard contact or by reflection onto the Audiopoint..Our brass coupling discs maintain impedance and transfer speed, the disc shape diffuses interference the tip geometry rejects the left overs. MG has no clue how these devices work. Butt now after 30 years and reading this post he might..well maybe not..Blocks of wood sound better when they are used in inconjuction with and grounded with our points and discs as are cello and bass. Tom
theaudiotweak - you really don’t pay attention, do you? We’ve been over this many times before. I never said Springs allow vibration to get out. You’re embarrassing yourself. I feel embarrassed for you. 😬 Head down to your local library and study up on mass on spring isolation. You haven’t leaned a damned thing. Besides, I just got through describing why seismic vibration takes precedence over induced vibration. Were you snoozing?  Eat more fish. 🐟 🐟 🐟 🐠 God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason.
Geoff

None of your stuff has an exit point. All the internally self generated garbage is left to fester and interfere with the music..Your brain is stuck and so is all that noise ...a polarity of shear and not the good part. Tom