Vandersteen Sub woofers v Rythmik Subs

Ok math and physics

read the measurements in the reviews and understand that relative to most dynamic loudspeakers Vandersteen presents a rather benign load...

is it a perfect lab resistor? no

since we have established no tube amp transformer can drive any variable load, appears roughly half of the Industry and music zealots will need to take up bowling..

i worked in advanced technology business to 30 years - cool stuff based on math and science - satellites, rockets, missiles, helicopter, people haulers, ...
lots and lots of armchair engineers claiming we got it wrong... over those 30 years a few, scant few did have a better idea, some actually quite disruptive to technology and the industry ( think stealth and the math behind it )
but without the stones or capital or common sense to get it to market
( making $ even harder )

so so who knows, perhaps ....

but it since I am interested in better sound, I earnestly await ??????

When REL subs are connected to a main amp’s speaker outputs, they put a 100,000 ohm load on the amp, so 2 of them would seem to put a 50,000 ohm load into the mix...I haven’t noticed that any amp I’ve used with RELs has shown a tonal or performance effect from a REL being connected to it, so I doubt they mess with the amp in any way other than generally helping things sound better. Easy way to test this...turn the RELs down and listen to the amp...unplug the Neutrik cable from the REL (or RELs) rendering the load to zero...and listen again...hear any difference?

@wolf_garcia  +1  Listening for a difference!  What a concept.😬

Great thread.  I personally listen with my ears and then make decisions.  I have owned the first Treo's adn now own the Quatro CT painted (an option for the Treo on up and worth it if you love the painted look). 

What Richard has done with carbon fiber and drivers is amazing.  He has designed and built his own cones and sends them out to be finished by a top manufacturer.  That's proprietary to say the least and it shows in the sound.  Those 7's to my ears are as good or better than anything I've heard.  He actually spend a lot of time and money using different CF fabrics to chose the one he felt was teh best sounding.  It's actually similar to the fabric that is used in my walking sticks (I have MS and use a rollator, but have sticks to get around in the house when needed etc...).  

The 9's are very special subs in their CF build to their ability to fill large spaces etc...  The new Sub 3's are affordable and have built in EQ as we spoke about earlier.  Set up properly, they will smooth out the bass just as good as a swarm or any of the subs.  

What the swarm is, can be done with any sub.  I personally would rather just get two great subs rather than 4 subs that may or may not sound as good.  Just because a sub can be purchased for half of the cost of another one doesn't mean it will sound nearly as good as the other one. 

I have a close audio buddy who auditioned the AK swarm vs many other subs and went with the Vandy 2's. It's always a personal choice as we know. Back to listening.

Funny thread.....

maybe i I do need sub 9 ?????