Legacy Focus HDs

I dont know if you heard a properly set-up Quatro but when my dad swapped out the Legacy for the Vandy it was like he had real bass for the first time, he can listen much louder as the Vandy doesnt shout at you and the bass is tight. My dad really liked the Legacy, but found it hard to come to terms of how bad they were compared to the Vandy.
You would think the Legacy bass would dance circles around the Vandersteen with its larger drivers but we both always felt the Legacy started sounding stressed at higher volumes, the bass just got sloppy and the mids and tweeters were very aggresive, they were fed with 300w Classe mono amps so non arguement about quality power.
I would like to see you hear another pair of Quatro only to confirm you must not have heard a well setup pair, with the bass tuning I find it hard to believe you thought they didnt sound good but this hobby is very subjective.
Maybe the new HD trounces the old Focus but I doubt it is a super huge step up, my dad thought he was serveed well by the Legacy and still does.....but the Vandy was just better... also better then Wilson Sophia wich he thought about buying.

I'm not saying they sounded bad but remember I'm compairing them to my set-up. I haven't heard a Legacy speaker, but I'm interested in them. I will say I love my Vandersteen 3 Sig's. Read my system drescription about when I auditioned amps. I pissed this guy off because I said his $25k speakers sounded like crap and the bass was muddy. I run my 3A's with McIntosh MC-501'a and Preamp is AR Ref II MK II, so equipment my have something to do with it. But they were set up right, the store that sells them has carried Vandersteen since they first came out and Richard frequents his store from titme to time. We listened and played around with them over an hour, we had the store to ourelves. I just wasn't sure how much improvement I can get from them. Sometimes I like night club sound and I fear the Vandies can't take it. What kind of music do you and your dad enjoy. I like lots of rock for the most part. But I have added the Quatro's to my list and like to hear opinions on them, but no two of us are the same...
Scott

Where are you located?
Well with your love of Rock maybe Legacy will please you, the Vandersteen wont play at those levels, I would look at ZU speakers seeing how you like high volume from time to time.
My dad does not play any rock ever, Classical, Opera, Jazz, World Music is his style, but I play rock on his gear when I am there and able. But I know wich recordings sound good so I only travel with my best selections.

I'm located in WA state. I listen to more types of music now but opera I just can't listen to. Classical is fine but not knowing much about it, it's hard to know what was a good recording. I mostly listen to rock and have a bad habit of playing it loud from time to time. Problem is some rock is so poorly recorded it doesn't sound good no matter what you do. I listened to the quatros at Advanced Audio in Tacoma WA. We even played some vinyl and it made me want to get into vinyl again... just more $$$$.. It's just that when we played Pink Floyd Dark Side Of The Moon (on vinyl) it didn't have the punch and authority like when I heard it turned up on some Martin Logan Summits. The Summits actually impressed me allot. They have 2 10" powered subs built in also. They are more efficient than the Vandie's, you should give them a listen. For the type of music your dad enjoys, I would say he made a very good choice in speakers.
Scott

I still own Innersound Eros Electrostat hybrids wich are the same as a Logan minus the curved panel and Powered woofers (Innersound are passive 10in) but my dad doesnt care for that huge wall of sound.
The Summits are the best yet from ML and a pretty good value for the money but stats get old after awhile, atleast mine did, a friend in our audio club has been runing them in his system for over a year now and I visited them the other day, funny thing was I couldnt figure out what I really liked about them....go figure.
Take a look at VMPS they offer alot of what is great with Planars and fast stats but have always been known for killer bass.....I own the FF3 SRE with outboard crossover.
The only thing about Legacy is they are a "hotrod" in that I mean they are always ready to getty up and go but sometimes they lacked the finess you crave with multiple musical taste. I agree 100% about rock music being very hard to get too picky about as it is almost always crap recordings, the guy I talked earlier about has $10K PassLab mono amps, a near $10K Sota table with SME V arm and so on, and when he plays rock it almost seems silly to have all that money wrapped up into playing the crap the spit out of the recording booth....loud compressed garbage.