Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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"Uh, oh, it looks like another wave of blah blah blah from one of the primary baitees."
Uh, oh, it looks like another wave of blah blah blah from one of the primary baitees.
I’m pretty sure you meant from one of the primary baiters. Dare I say master?
Beauty is in the eye of beholder so being pretty is not that sure. Sometimes, personality gets in the way.

Something got your many posts deleted prof. As well the Starsound posts and the kosst posts. Anyone can scroll through the pages and see this is the case, so don't be "fake". That's reality and documented.

I tTotally disagree with jf47t or whoever you are.

Like Prof has disclosed previously:


‘Someone’ and not something had the posts removed.


The "reality" of this thread was clearly documented but unfortunately a lot of reality has been deleted. The fakes are actually the individuals removing selective posts that impair their egos and/or challenge the hard-line facts.

Example:    "abusive toward other members"   These complaints must be first filed by a member so two thinned skin someone's are responsible for removing a boat load of posts on this thread. Said individuals should finally stop "laying blame on the moderators" and look in a mirror.

Personally, I never liked people that play on both sides of the fence.

“The Truths” that were disclosed in the many removed posts were the only spot on factors here and not the participants.



NOW FOR A DOSE OF REALITY:

Jf47t stated:


And yes you have not only been asked to calm down by other posters but have also had several of your posts deleted by the mods for being "abusive toward other members".


How did you know this?


Moderators do not explain or display their actions.


SO again -


How Did You Know the Exact Reason for Profs’ Posts Being Deleted?


How could anyone know that was the reason, unless………….💡!!!


GUILTY AS CHARGED

Sincerely,

Robert