Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


michaelgreenaudio
wcfeil
Very shortly this will approach the TaraLabs cable thread as the biggest space waster in the forums. 

>>>>>Oh, yeah, that’s not complaining. That’s an observation. What was I thinking? 🙄
"Very shortly this will approach the TaraLabs cable thread as the biggest space waster in the forums."
It is neither complaining, nor an observation. It is an educated prophecy. From what it seems, wcfeil may not be more correct.
uberwaltz,

"Unfortunately I really do not have anything useful to contribute to this thread. But that would put me in good company from what I see....."

The company is, in fact, not that good, but nobody here has contributed anything meaningful in a while, if ever. It is like a neighborhood bar. In case you have some free time and walk in, there is always someone there to argue about whatever the topic of the moment may be. At the end of the evening, you go home and forget about where you were and what you talked about.

to geoffkait:

Jokes?
Thought that was your speciality?
You must be joking.
Glupson
You must frequent nicer bars than I do...lol
Nobody in my dive bars would even raise a glass to anything here.

And yes I was joking...…...