Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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I can think of quite a number of places where Geoff would "fit" very comfortably as a "guest"...…. 
marqmike,

I meant my wishes for a nice day sincerely, I felt it at that moment, but really expected, based on my experience here, it would be taken as a sarcasm or something else. I was wrong and I am grateful for that.

At the moment of writing, I saw the beautiful day outside and thought, as blasphemous it may be for this particular website, that it would be a waste to spend it inside listening to some electronic equipment or, even worse, trying to improve that equipment. Hence, my suggestion for enjoying the day was to get out and enjoy other aspects of life, forgetting electronics, computers, angry forums, etc. Warm day, blue sky, walk, the works.
Yes, glibson, we get that you aren’t really an audiophile, that you have no real interest in improving your sound, and cannot really develop a sense of how to actually debate any of the audiophile issues that appear on these forums, other than to pose as some sort of phoney baloney home spun Philosopher and facilitator. You aspire to be a Thorn in the side of audiophiles. Aka troll. If you can’t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. Chill your jets. Take some Valium. At least you’re engaging in some form of walking. Walk it off. Feel better.
Glupson that is the way I took it as a wish for a good day. Thanks
' as blasphemous it may be for this particular website,' .That is funny, I agree there are more important things than what we do here. 

So here we are a few months into this thread and coming back to visit the forum a couple of times I've notice the revolving door of the same ole thread development on the forum mostly ending in the same ole crash and burn fatalities as I said would happen in this thread's OP.

The audiophile world has been moving along just fine, and happy, but HEA stays in a state of decline and the same type of topics over and over. Opinions being thrown in from those who aren't actually doing always ends in the same place, talking without walking. I've noticed even a thread about why people hate HEA, that only a couple of posts in the trolling begins.

Doing the hobby is where the happiness lives. All the rest ends in nothing but talk.

Michael Green

http://tuneland.forumotion.com/