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DO CABLES REALLY MATTER?

Yes they do.  I’m not here to advocate for any particular brand but I’ve heard a lot and they do matter. High Fidelity reveal cables, Kubala Sosna Elation and Clarity Cable Natural. I’m having a listening session where all of them is doing a great job. I’ve had cables that were cheaper in my system but a nicely priced cable that matches your system is a must.  I’m not here to argue what I’m not hearing because I have a pretty good ear.  I’m enjoying these three brands today and each is presenting the music differently but very nicely. Those who say cables don’t matter. Get your ears checked.  I have a system that’s worth about 30 to 35k retail.  Now all of these brands are above 1k and up but they really are performing! What are your thoughts. 
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geoffkait
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prof - sorry to say you still don’t get it. Nobody is saying there’s no such thing as bias or other psychological effects. What I’m saying it’s not easy to prove or disprove anything in audio. Nobody promised you a rose garden. What you still don’t get is that negative results of a blind test don’t mean anything. All I can do is keep repeating my mantra until it seeps through that thick membrane surrounding your brain. All this other pharma blind testing and blind tests used for physics is stuff you made up or irrelevant.

What lengths will determined pseudo skeptics go to try to prove that cables don’t matter or that directionality doesn’t matter or that fuses don’t matter? Well, we’re seeing what lengths they’re go, right here, ladies and germs. You can take all the Crusader Rabbits and line them up and they won’t prove anything. 🐇 🐇 🐇 🐇 🐇

Let me put it a different way. If YOU performed a blind test yourself and reported negative results I would throw your results in the circular file. Capish? 😛.

Why is it that pseudo skeptics and die hard naysayers never perform testing themselves? Just a lotta, “Betcha can’t pass a blind test.” What are they afraid of? 😳
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For starters musical instruments are not like audio although I can certainly understand why someone might say so. Second, I don’t trust other people’s hearing. So there’s that. Also, blind testing is actually not part of the scientific method. So, there’s that, too. That’s a lot of rubbish that pseudo skeptics want us to believe.
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I've never really gotten the arguments about blind testing.  It's a tool and it can be useful.  But Geoff is 100% correct that someone else's results in a blind test are irrelevant to YOU.  You must be the subject for the test to be useful.

I use blind tests when the results of non-blind testing are not obvious, or when differences are obvious, but my preference is not. 

Happy listening!


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It’s not that someone else’s blind tests are irrelevant to me. It’s not that at all. You misquoted me. What I’m saying is ANY blind test taken by itself has no meaning and cannot be generalized to make some grand sweeping statement. So, a single test can have no meaning for the person doing the test, too, not only me, Especially if the results of that test are negative. Now, if there are say ten blind tests by different people in ten different systems then I might look at the data. Raise your hands if you still don’t understand.
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