Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Prof - From the beginning in '74-'75 the goal was to find the best platform on which to build a line. We investigated (translate designed and built) spherical arrays, line sources, panels, folded horns, powered multi-driver speakers, and I may be forgetting a few. Phase coherence was in the list of goals, but not found to be practical. The first real product to take shape, the Model O1, incorporated what we could achieve in practical terms within our constraints. Its strengths were very high efficiency (94dB?) with its equalized sealed box bass, built on a custom driver by Eminence, who built stage drivers for Peavey and others. That driver had a huge magnet, good thermal management, long excursion and good linearity, but with a normal, overhung voice coil; the best that we could find for our needs. BTW, better than SEAS, Dynaudio, etc. The tweeter to match was a Long Engineering 1.5" mylar dome with good performance. Jim messed with first and second order filters for that product and landed on 3rd - 18dB slopes as the most practical solution. It was fairly linear, bass below 30Hz and a not too refined treble in a medium bookshelf package in all the wood finishes Thiel became known for.

We gathered a following, especially due to some serendipitous European export opportunities. Dealers wanted a more refined, audiophile product and Jim developed the O2 as a response to demand more than his own ambition. It was a ported 6.5" Seas treated paper woofer under a 1" Peerless silk dome with second order slopes. It delivered a more refined presentation, trading off bass response and some efficiency. I think it came in around 90dB and served as a stepping stone into the emerging audiophile market, which really hadn't gelled yet.

By 1977 we had attended our first CES and had enough distribution to figure out that we had to do something unique, memorable, extraordinary to carve out a meaningful niche. The next year and a half of extreme difficulty went into developing the O3 as a minimum phase transducer. We went to our second show with a second order O3 as backup because EVERYTHING mattered so much more when phase coherence was added to the formula. There were deficiencies that were later solved. We mustered our courage and presented the Minimum Phase version, having the rectangular normal tower in the closet, just in case. The response was overwhelmingly positive, and we never looked back to normalcy.

That sounds smoother than it was. We faced another year of tracking down weird stuff such as magnetic eddies, wire anomalies, diffraction and so forth, all of which were sonically invisible with high order filters, but glaringly obvious with first order. The ear-brain interpreted the sound as "real" and held it to a higher standard than regular canned sound. That's a big subject, but I must sign off for this evening. 

Fascinating information- tomthiel

Thank You for your continued contributions and support here.  Always a pleasure to read more history of Thiel Audio.


Happy Listening!

ronkent


Live every day as if it were your Last!  Other good health tips as above.

Happy Listening!

hi BrayEagle,   thank you for a wonderful post.  what a great story.  it is so neat that at 95 you are still enjoying audio,  and no longer using a cactus needle as a stylus.  what happened to your post.  it has disappeared. 
I pulled it off, as there was too much extraneous stuff in it for a real answer to your query.
Yes, I learned about and really came to appreciate classical music via the old Red Seals, 77, 45, LP. reel-to-reel and CD recordings. Additionally, I began listening to classical FM stations in the 50s. I was fortunate to be able to see some operas at the Met, the Chicago Lyric and Washington DC Kennedy Center. My Air Force career and subsequent employment let me attend performances of symphonies and opera in Vienna, London, Milan,Rome, Paris and Germany. What still sticks in my mind is Risa Stevens in Carmen, Christoff in Faust, Ramey in Boris and Mestopholese, and attending the Volksioper, where we saw Boris - - sung in German! And, the Anonymous Four’s concert, sung from the middle of the Nave in the National Cathedral.
I’ve never been a true high-end audio guy - - just building and buying things to let me sit back and enjoy recorded music without picking apart the reproduction, per se. I wanted to listen to the music, and not the equipment.
Beginning by building speakers (using Thiele-Small where possible), I came to believe speakers ARE what define excellent reproduction, and so my quest has been to find speakers that will let me listen to the music and performances I know and love. Just a few thoughts