DO CABLES REALLY MATTER?


Yes they do.  I’m not here to advocate for any particular brand but I’ve heard a lot and they do matter. High Fidelity reveal cables, Kubala Sosna Elation and Clarity Cable Natural. I’m having a listening session where all of them is doing a great job. I’ve had cables that were cheaper in my system but a nicely priced cable that matches your system is a must.  I’m not here to argue what I’m not hearing because I have a pretty good ear.  I’m enjoying these three brands today and each is presenting the music differently but very nicely. Those who say cables don’t matter. Get your ears checked.  I have a system that’s worth about 30 to 35k retail.  Now all of these brands are above 1k and up but they really are performing! What are your thoughts. 
calvinj
"It’s very common for audio dealers to hand a customer some used cable with a request that he try it in his system."

The other part of the story is that it is getting very uncommon to find an audio dealer.

Should it be expected that a dealer who does not know a customer "personally" loans a cable to her/him? Some people who are not feverish about this hobby do not have a dealer who would ever recognize them. Are there some "cable libraries" where cables could be borrowed for a nominal fee?


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glupson
geoffkait,

Two "what about this" questions that are off the thread topic, but that came to me after reading your list above.

Don’t you sometimes, maybe secretly, wish that you do find someone who agrees with you? Do you ever wonder how that would feel?

Having to fight all those windmills alone must be exhausting.

>>>>I oft pine for a new class of posters, perhaps more curious and enthusiastic, and sometimes ask myself, why can’t there be more of me?
 @geoffkait @cleeds 
I'm unclear as to why you can't engage in a bit of discourse without getting personal.
@geoffkait What in goodness sake has glupson done to anyone to merit that sort of talk. Get some rest gentleman.
@prof 
What I was attempting to get at, rather poorly it seems, is humans are notoriously unreliable test subjects. Because of human variability, it is extremely difficult to get adequate support to satisfy a hypothesis that ultimately results in a scientific "law," unlike something like Ohm's Law which is pretty much a bedrock principle in electronics. We can point to failed medical studies and drug recalls. We can't control human moods, blood pressure, sleep patterns, vascular anomalies, etc.  All of that makes it less reliable than running the same test through a computer with Rightmark and testing for THD, frequency response, dynamic range etc.. Those are quantifiable numbers that speak to the transmission/reception of sound waves.  "I liked this one better," can be added up along with it's opposite number. You want to quantify that fine. That's simply not good enough for me. Nor, is it very good science.  On the other hand, some knowledge can be taken from it.


chemman
@geoffkait @cleeds
I’m unclear as to why you can’t engage in a bit of discourse without getting personal.

>>>>It is what it is. Glupson must get some satisfaction since he keeps responding to all of my posts. He even goes out of his way to interrupt or offer some advice or whatever. My guess? 🍑🍔🍔 That’s a joke in case you can’t tell.

@geoffkait What in goodness sake has glupson done to anyone to merit that sort of talk. Get some rest gentleman.

>>>>We already have a moderator. Thanks, anyway.

@prof
What I was attempting to get at, rather poorly it seems, is humans are notoriously unreliable test subjects. Because of human variability, it is extremely difficult to get adequate support to satisfy a hypothesis that ultimately results in a scientific "law," unlike something like Ohm’s Law which is pretty much a bedrock principle in electronics. We can point to failed medical studies and drug recalls. We can’t control human moods, blood pressure, sleep patterns, vascular anomalies, etc. All of that makes it less reliable than running the same test through a computer with Rightmark and testing for THD, frequency response, dynamic range etc.. Those are quantifiable numbers that speak to the transmission/reception of sound waves. "I liked this one better," can be added up along with it’s opposite number. You want to quantify that fine. That’s simply not good enough for me. Nor, is it very good science. On the other hand, some knowledge can be taken from it.

>>>>That looks like it should go in the Whatever file, your apparent expertise in most of the scientific disciplines notwithstanding. 😛