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Bardo and 10.5 vs Stabi S and 4point 9

What would you choose of these two combinations? Has anyone had experience listening to each? I’ve only found one post noting a comparison, with the poster preferring the Kuzma.

I have been wanting the Bardo + 10.5 but the price keeps it out of range, at the very least for another month or two, possibly more. At nearly half the price I could pick up the Kuzma now. Wonder which of these two powerhouses people would go with.
gmercer
fjn04
1,561 posts
 
Wouldn't a Stabi REF 2 with a more entry level Kuzma arm,come in right around the same price as the BARDO/10.5? I would think with a fair discount, and one of Franc's Unipivot arms, you would be swinging in the same ballpark. I've heard the Bardo and Spyder, but with Reed arms. I liked the Spyder...very quiet, open, and organic sounding. I ended up going Kuzma, and have been quite happy. 
lewm
13,204 posts
 
 SKSOS. You owned a Bardo with speed stability issues? Surely that would’ve been an item you could send back to the manufacturer. That should never happen with any direct drive turntable. Some may be better than others, but none should have grossly audible speed issues or even easily measurable ones. Unless defective. 
gallus
45 posts
 
sksos1, I am also interested in knowing more about this speed issue with the Bardo, in case you don't mind sharing.
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dsholl1
99 posts
 
I have Kuzma Ref2 with 4 Point 9 (Cardas Clear wire). Using a Phasemation PP-1000 couldn’t be happier. 
sksos1
388 posts
 
First I never said the Bardo had grossly or audible speed issues I said it just had speed issues this measured using the Timeline device which uses a quartz clock and said to be accurate to two parts per million. Not many tables can pass the timeline device test.
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