DAC-Preamp having these specifications?


Rather than asking for feedback about specific products, I thought I instead would ask for your recommendations of a DAC-Preamp product(s) having a desired set of following specifications:

Output Impedance: < 300 Ohms
Balanced outputs (XLR)
Unbalanced outputs (RCA)
2 or more analog inputs (RCA or XLR)
2 or more digital inputs (coaxial + optical or USB)
DAC section preferably uses discrete components over op-amps
DAC signal processing capabilities should the usual fare though need not include every conceivable format
Price: ~$2,500 or less




128x128celander

No different than an external passive resistive attenuator. Changes impedance and can cause roll-off. Adds thermal noise. Critical to use low-capacitance interconnects with this type.  I stay away from these myself.

Another type of volume control I failed to mention is by transformer with multiple taps. An autotransformer is usually the design. This is typically not done in a DAC. Never seen it in a DAC. Quite expensive if done right with quality transformers, but this method has very few drawbacks. Only saturation of the transformers is an issue. Mostly the disadvantage is cost.

Steve N.

Empirical Audio

So the DAC3 uses method 2
This (linked) is where I believe the volume is controlled in the digital domain before d/a conversion. The other so called "hybrid" part is just an analogue gain adjusting (0db -10db -20db) on the output buffer for the maximum level volts obtainable if the digital volume in the ESS chip is full up.

https://ibb.co/h4MbD9

Cheers George
I have sent a request to benchmark about this topic.
So did I yesterday, nothing back yet.

Cheers George
@celander



Make sure you use RCA outputs if you are concerned about noise, Benchmark has pro-grade RCA - it runs at about 18Volts. This is a lot stronger than regular consumer RCA (2 volts) and confers a huge advantage. The SNR advantage is about 13dB.

Benchmark wrote an article about volume control in their older DAC 1. It is dated but the concepts are valid.

https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/13095789-volume-control-technologies


The Benchmark DAC 3 combines active analog gain control, passive low-impedance attenuators, a 32-bit digital gain control, and a servo-driven volume control. It basically uses a combination of Steve’s methods in order to minimize deliterious affects of excessive volume attenuation from one approach.

It is important to keep headroom so running signals as high as possible through an audio device and chain helps achieve the lowest noise. Running high signal levels is the way to do it and as Steve explained any attenuation through DSP, resistors or otherwise is going to reduce performance. A precision resistor pad on the output is an excellent way to allow a device to run at the highest signal levels possible and maintain good SNR while still attenuating the signal enough not to overload the next stage.

If you are really serious about noise then you should purchase their HPA-4 and run the Benchmark DAC with no attenuation at reference level (close to full volume) and feed the XLR analog output to the HPA-4 (for volume control prior to power amp). Personally I think this is overkill as the DAC 3 has one of the better volume control systems currently available on most DACs.


https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/benchmarks-256-step-relay-controlled-attenuator