Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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Hi kosst

It's nice to see you make a post on this thread that doesn't get flagged for breaking forum rules, like most of yours have.

My suggestion to you concerning your question is, if you feel owning a stereo is walking in the hobby that's fine. However there's a huge hobby out there to begin exploring and it never ends for those of us who do choose to walk vs those who are still working on their own comprehension skills. That's not meant to be mean but it is meant to qualify something that is pretty basic as listeners mature in the tuning of their systems.

Since I was last here on this thread there has been easily over 50 members from this forum exploring their systems through Tuning/Tweaking that I have worked with personally, and I'm sure many more who have explored on their own through reading this thread and deciding to get more involved in the hobby's many variables. 

Michael Green

http://tuneland.forumotion.com/

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Hi Elizabeth

That's a great example of walking, and a great door opener to other variables. For me, I see people doing this every day (tuning/tweaking) and the ones who have taken their first few steps into the variables you can see their views of the hobby change. The folks who have been doing it for a while, it's like they are in a completely different hobby. There usually comes a time where Tunees make their systems more and more variable. It's like you just said "for your own needs". There's no limits only desire, and there's no right or wrong only taste.

Thanks for making your post! I think those kinds of comments are important to help readers understand.

michael green