Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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MG
Very apt but you are definitely barking at the moon!
Absolutely nowhere did my post say I was in support of Kosst,in fact we have butted heads on more than one occasion.

What it DID say which you blithely ignored was it is not cool to brag about repeatedly reporting posts.
But you did try a little back pedal there saying not even here when in reality since you have "been back" it has mostly just been you and Kosst back and forth.
Funny that....

But you are right in that I have better things to do than waste my precious " walking" time here.

Time to unfollow this train wreck again.
Sayonara!
@elizabeth 

Sounds like Slaw.
He criticized myself for changing equipment, saying how could I form an opinion on sq when constantly changing gear.
I very politely asked him to just please ignore me here in future as I intended to do likewise.


But the answer is called a pair of ears.

Now its bye bye time.
What kind of day was it? A day like all days that alter and illuminate our times with lots of good old fashion audiophile banter. 

I don't know guys, I think it's pretty impressive when a 70 year old out hears a 43 year old.

Tom LOL, hey anyway my coattails can help you brother have at it.

mg

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