It's Greek company. Dimitros, chief designer, also records live music. His preamps, amps and phono stage really get high respect, so does his Phaethon integrated. Very expensive stuff.
Talk but not walk?
Hi Guys
This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?
I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?
You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?
I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?
thanks, be polite
Michael Green
www.michaelgreenaudio.net
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That's Ypsilon phono and Phaethon integrated playing. Thales turntable, digital recording. Lansche speakers. Well, that's youtube but you can hear some of that sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ8YIow9m2s |
No Tom here's how you do that. Hey Mike I have some ideas that differ from yours (I think) and I'd like to get together and discuss them. Maybe even while we're listening to some music together and kicking back. Tom, I've been nice to you and Robert on this thread and I'm going to be nice right now and tell you, your agenda here is not working unless your agenda has been to sell MGA Cones for me. Are you not aware that your clients are placing orders with me to compare the old Audiopoint design against the new one (MGA Cones). Every time you guys come up here it's like a free ad for Michael Green Audio. Folks who remember Michael Green's Audiopoints are ordering from me again. Many didn't know where I went or heard stories from somewhere in Audiopoint land. Well that only lasts until they put the old Audiopoint up against the MGA MTD (mechanical transfer device). Hey, we love the excitement and getting to make contact with old friends, but I wonder and they have said, is it smart for Starsound to send customers to Michael Green Audio? If your cool with it thanks but Audiogon readers are different from Audiogon posters. I know you think your being effective and by all means keep it up if you want. Michael Green |
I expect you didnt write your own response as it has a style unlike anything else you may have written here. The other truth is the Michael Green Audio Point was designed by AMD and manufactured in Nebraska and not by you..so your on the coat tales..The fact that your device is hollowed makes for a less effective waveguide because its wall thickness will not support all frequencies. As I have now said many times you don't even know how your own products work even those you claim to be of your origin..not..Your agenda here is just a store front..Dialing for dollars..you do as you always have ..when you need some jack you show up with all your smoke. The only thing you mentioned that won't go out of tune in a matter of hours is the Audio Point..which is not of your making or understanding. Tom |
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