Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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@geoffkait...………………………..

WRONG. It’s why do people hate geoffkait so much? You spoil almost every thread you engage in.

>>>>Double yikes!! That’s some pretty strong language there, cowboy. 🤠 Maybe you should try to keep in mind it’s only a hobby.
@michaelgreenaudio 
The OP can be seen at the top of our screens every time we open this thread.  Is reposting it a form of "walking" or maybe a subliminal message to help motivate all the talkers-not-walkers?  A word to the wise, if you ever start another thread don't begin with,
"This isn't meant to start a fight, but"

Hi Mitch

I appreciate your comment, however while writing this my focus was on the second half of the sentence

"but it is important to on lookers'

The on lookers are who have contacted me privately and who deserve an audio forum of integrity, truthfulness and free of trolls and fakers. The on lookers are also who inspired me to write the OP. The fact is Mitch, no matter how I wrote this thread's OP the trolls were going to come up to do what they do, tearing down the very fiber of this great hobby.

The OP has been sliced and diced to death and I believe brings out the true intent of the ones posting on this thread. That's what the OP was meant to do, and what it has done successfully.

Michael Green

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"Double yikes!! That’s some pretty strong language there, cowboy. 🤠 Maybe you should try to keep in mind it’s only a hobby."
Can all of us remember these sentences and reuse them next time someone acts/writes inappropriately?