I hate biasing!

As I mentioned in another Ref 6 thread re plexi covers, I just traded in my Ref 5SE for a Ref 6.  While at the dealer, I saw that he had a pair of Ref160Ms tied into Magico S5 MK II speakers.  Didn't get a chance to take a listen.  

Has anyone had a chance to check out the new Ref 160?  Major bucks.  The pair lists for $30K.

I read the Ref 160 specs.  They are identical to the Ref 150SE.  Means nothing of course, but I am curious if anyone has a done a serious listen, especially if they are familiar with the Ref 150SE.  

Quite curious if the Ref 160s are in "another league" as compared to the Ref 150SE.  Given that  a Ref 160 pair costs twice as much as the Ref 150SE, I can only assume they will sound twice as good.  lol

bifwynne,

Just yesterday I read the Stereophile review of the REF 160. See John Atkinsons measurements and comments. The cost is high at $30 K but two amps are always more expensive. Lots of power though.

Roger,

At first I thought the Ref 160 monos were a Ref 150SE split in two.  Separate power supplies and power trannies of course.  But a close look at the specs show some small differences.  So maybe the Ref 160 does have some new bells and whistles that add to SQ.  

For example, I understand that the Ref 160 can be switched to play in triode mode.  Mike, a dealer and founder of Audio Shark, reports that  triode mode is like being in heaven.

Oh, a point relevant to this thread, as I mentioned above, the Ref 160 auto biases.  That's a nice feature.

All that said, there is no way I would drop $30K on an amp (or in this case, ... amps).   Aside from space issues, after my wife got done with me, I'd be talking like Minnie Mouse.

BIF

Wait for the Ref 160 SE, which will come out as soon as sales of the original drop off. It will make the non-SE original sound broken. Actually, it probably will be ;-).

Good to see you- BIF

Happy Listening!