Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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Now now Katie, do not go putting words into people's mouths ... Or anything else for that matter.

>>>>Wishful thinking, Ubie? 🤔
Mike

If you ever clean your home or office how do you vacuum your carpets with all those puzzle pieces exposed to the elements..dust bunnies and cats and dogs..Maybe you use a low pressure blow gun. Do you navagate over the game board on a hover craft or use a pogo stick to jump between bits and pieces of the wooden board players?Tom
Tom

That actually was one of my biggest problems with the whole equipment tuning thing of having parts scattered around the floor connected by wires, all live and exposed.

I jokingly stated in another thread entirely that if I did anything similar then I am sure one of my wayward cats would decide one or more items was either ;
a/ a good place to pee!
b/ a nice bit of plaything wire to chew on!

Obviously both could have dire consequences for both cats and equipment!
In other words not really a joke at all.

So not so much dissing the whole process of whether it could actually work, but the practicality aspect in the vast majority of "normal" households is just never going to fly.

Now differing wood blocks under cased up equipment, sure I can see that having some sonic effect AND being practical to try.

Any material or shape in, under,on or around another material surface will alter the shear wave response and the result will be a change in the compressive wave response within the components which the acoustic space is the largest. Mike cannot describe how any of his products work because he does not understand the origins of sound. Tom
mitch:
Congratulations on a wonderful system.
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I f you have not tried a Synergistic Research Blue wall outlet, I think your very well thought out system would demonstrate what this Outlet can do.
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David Pritchard