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Talk but not walk?

Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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glupson
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"Just to be clear, I believe MG has every right to charge for his services,..."
If he does answer questions here and has a right to charge for it, does Audiogon get a cut? How would that go?
glupson
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Michael Green,

I Googled J.C. Griffin and did not find anything horrible. Well, there are a few J.C. Griffins that come up and one seems to be a politician so someone could see it differently. Aside of that, nothing shocking about the man with a studio/house. Seems like a man doing his work on a local level. It does not seem like my kind of music, either, but to each his own. Nothing that I could see would prompt quite some response from kosst_amojan.
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bdp24
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glupson---No, I meant the services MG provides through his website (or however he does his consultation), not any information he provides here on AudiogoN gratis.
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michaelgreenaudio OP
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Well there you have it on the kosst story, next?

Hi Glipson

As you did, I did exactly what kosst suggested so I could see who he was talking about.

kosst said

"I sort of follow recording engineers and producers if I feel they're getting a particularly good sound of out their work, and these guys tend to be in high demand. I went to school with a guy who's recorded produced Billboard charting albums. I just Googled him. The second, third, forth, fifth, and sixth results were for him. I've been to his studio a few times. He's helped me sort out my room. I can find the guy on the internet!!!! He's got credits to his name! He actually produces results for paying, professional musicians! He does good work! He's the real deal. And I'd take his acoustic advice over MG's every single second of the week."

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So I simply asked for the guy's name. kosst gave it so I looked him up, no biggie. Like you would (even more so with a name like Michael Green) you see a ton of folks. That's how search engines work.

The OP says "why be fake". To this kosst gives the answer "As for who I am, I go out of my way to avoid identifying myself or sticking out in a crowd. Anything I write either has no name or a fake name. I don't even give people my real name when I order food."

So here is a guy who gets furious over me even though my background is as documented as can be, while he goes out of his way to give fake names.

This is another example of why the OP was written.

Michael Green

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