Stillpoints - snake oil?

@elizabeth Aside from drilling and installing 1/4-20 T nuts, or threaded inserts, to accommodate threaded spikes - my first inclination would be to try a set of leather, shot bags. Make ea. bag long enough to go across the width of the base and maybe 4" or 5" wide and a couple of inches thick. Lay one across the front and one across the back of ea. speaker base.
I'm using some small (about 6" x 3" x 1.5") leather shot bags from my shop, laid across the metal feet of my Maggie 1.7s. Not only did it solve the problem of the speakers migrating on the carpet (only a quarter of an in. or so per mo. but enough to affect their off axis imaging) but also made an overall improvement in detail and air. I'm happy with the results, but now have to make some that are a bit more decorative and a little  higher on the WAF scale...Jim   

I am a Stillpoints user. 

Stillpoints recommends placing the Ultra SS or the more expensive Ultra 5’s under speakers first. 

I ignored this and isolated first with Ultra Mini (least expensive) under the components, but not the amps. I then added Ultra SS under a pair of Focal 1038be I had at the time resting on carpet over concrete - the difference was not subtle, the sound became more controlled across the range, down side is it took 4 each, plus adapters between Stillpoints and the speaker.

At this time, I got in new amps and waiting for new speakers, costing 5X that of the Focal while still playing the Focals - it sounded very good, enough where I wish I pocketed the difference but addiction prevailed and the new speakers were on their way.

The new speakera were on manufacture spikes and I then tried Ansuz Dark DTC followed by Stillpoints Ultra SS - again realizing a more controlled sound emitting from the speaker. I will be moving to the Ultra 5s under the speakers as budget presents itself as the SS did their job and now can assume the 5’s will get me better than 5% more result. At 5% the purchase has to be in the buy, meaning a deal.

All other gear floats on Ultra SS, and soon 6 under the DAC and server, again the 6 need to be had at a deal. 

Afternarket is such that it is an industry in to itself. Componet and Speaker companies leave these tweaks out as it’s a personal choice as they don’t know what the entire system looks like or the environment it resides in. Cost also becomes the factor, they would have to up charge 25% plus for manufacture and carrying costs. There are a lot of examples in auto, boats and even homes. Why does kitchens in new homes not include a SubZero refrigerator, it’s only $10K on a six figure house?


Isolation works, as does treatment and a solid power foundation - these items can help shape a moderately priced system into a great sounding system and stupid priced systems like I am running question the amount of money spent where I did not have to go all in so to speak even after following the disciplines of power, isolation and treatment. My falling off a few times to from the discipline resulted in buys of uber priced gear that sometimes I remorse of course until I hit play :-)

I am a Stillpoints user. I tried about a dozen other similar vibration devices under the same components to arrive at the ones that I use. Under my VPI TNT VI, I use a Townsend sink (solves VPI’s poor isolation problem).  I had major vibration problems (my equipment sit on shot/sand filled heavy steel welded stands 25'+ from the speakers in an equipment alcove).
Under my rubber footed, custom made pre-amp, I use Stillpoint Ultra SS.
Under my EAR Acute CD player, I use ultra-minis
Under my Bryston BIT 20-isolation transformer, I use Ultra SS pointed side down.
Under my large 125w. tube monoblock amps, I use ultra-minis.

I swapped different types of Stillpoints as well as base up or down as well to determine what sounded best. The older Aurios were good under turntables but I found them to be on the bright side. The original Stillpoints were cruder design and prove to be warmer, less resolving then current designs.

Under an EAR 324 phono preamp, a buckwheat pillow beat out all other vibration designs (at least a dozen). It’s the cheapest too!

The pillow was superior to the standard equipment feet on all the above but Stillpoints beat it at much higher price. This took 18 years of experimenting with vibration devices.

I’d like to try Stillpoints phono center weight against my VPI premium heavy center weight. If it’s only slightly better, I’ll keep the VPI.

Fleschler,
What is the particular brand of buckweat pillow you use? 

I bought them through Tom Port of Better Records.  Until I found the Stillpoints, I purchased four pillows.  Mine our Homedics, Inc. brand from Keego Harbor, MI (so it says on the pillow).   https://www.overstock.com/Bedding-Bath/Homedics-Buckwheat-Pillow/6602/product.html  out of stock.  I'm sure there are others which could function similarly such as https://pillowpicker.com/best-buckwheat-pillows/  with multiple sizes and densities.  Or phone/write Tom Port for his recommendations.