Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
128x128jafant
If I remember correctly voltage (v) = current(I) times resistance (r).  Watts equal volts(v) times amps(I).  That means that if an amp ever actually dumped 90 amps into a 4 ohm load it would be delivering 32,400 watts.  That's 43 horsepower.  It must be able to deliver that for a VERY short period of time or there's some other factor I don't know about.  I was a math major but I've never spent time trying to understand the numbers with this stuff and it's been a long time since I did any non-trivial math.  Is it phase angle related?

i=90
r=4

v = ir = 360

w = 360*90 = 32,400

1hp = 746 watts.

so, 90 amps into 4 ohms is 43.43 hp.


jon_5912
your math is correct. I also would like to know, precisely, how Right phase angle(s) in our Thiel speakers tie all of this together?  I do know that it is related to providing an Amp that is 2 to 3 Ohms stable across the frequency range. Perhaps one of our engineer -minded contributors can chime in here?
Happy Listening!
tomthiel
As we cultivate a list of preferable Power Amps, can we list each amp's max/peak Amps of current output please?  Thank You.
Happy Listening!
My Reference Amp to date:Conrad Johnson Premier 350- 350x350w into 8 ohms. 600x600w into 4 ohms.  66A of peak current delivery.  Happy Listening!
The max current spec is instantaneous allowed by the storage capacitors, transformers and various resistance elements. Such a high maximum will maintain integrity of the early onset transient of the signal. Where phase angle comes to play is that such a clean onset transient would be rounded-suppressed-scrambled by a phase incorrect transducer. With phase integrity the system has the potential to replicate such an onset transient.

A robust speaker can handle along the lines of 100 watts music power and more like 10 watts continuous. So, this high power delivery is strictly in the realm of transients.

To that realm, the improvements brought by audio resistors, ultra capacitors and high purity coils and wire are also in the realm of transient fidelity. A speaker with schlock stuff will measure the same as with great stuff with a steady-state input signal.