Filling audio rack tubes with sand, metal, grape nutz???


Hello-

I know this has been asked before, but can't seem to find the answer I need. I have to VTI pro series audio racks coming this Friday from Cali and was wondering if it's necessary to fill the tubes with anything. I've researched people use sand or metal pieces of something or another. Any recommendations would be great unless it's Grape Nutz. 

Thanks!

Brent
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Actually glass microbeads, which I mentioned earlier, on this or similar thread, work better in this application than steel microbeads. Glass microbeads are employed in my Mikro g seismic platform, introduced a couple years ago. Why glass microbeads, you ask? Because they are harder and lighter (react faster to vibration forces) than steel microbeads and because they can be fabricated in the most ideal, efficacious diameter for audio applications. Steel microbeads by comparison are slow and sluggish. Glass microbeads in conjunction with contrained layer damping and a layer very hard material simulates the physical characteristics of a woodpecker’s head. The physical characteristics of the tissue and bone surrounding the woodpecker’s brain 🧠 prevent injury or death during very rapid and extremely high negative g movements whilst pecking wood. Necessity is the mother of invention. He he ha ha, he he ha ha!

Actually glass microbeads, which I mentioned earlier, on this or similar thread, work better in this application than steel microbeads.

Actually Geoff is batting a perfect 1000. If we post anywhere on this forum regardless of Mr. Kait’s experience or in many cases his lack of experience on various topics, he is the first responder guaranteeing ye old repetitive use of “mine is better than yours” hyperbole while maneuvering the original thread - off topic.

He he ha ha, he he ha ha!

Well stated Mr. Kait, well stated.

Our next response is where we pose questions regarding his generic statements and opinions that are guaranteed to forever remain - unanswered.

1 Steel ball bearings are not steel micro beads. Steel ball bearings are Conductive for Resonance. Glass is NON-Conductive so why is a glass medium better for filling a steel alloy tube or metal monitor stand since all metals are conductive for resonance transfer?

Why glass microbeads, you ask? Because they are harder and lighter (react faster to vibration forces) than steel microbeads and because they can be fabricated in the most ideal, efficacious diameter for audio applications. Steel microbeads by comparison are slow and sluggish.

2 What do you mean “react faster to vibration forces” and how do you verify your statement?

3 Are you referring to the attack sustain and decay characteristics of sound reproduction or the acceleration of resonance flow through a non-solid medium?

4 What does glass do to the overall function of the steel speaker stand that improves sonic performance?


Mr. Kait states steel is slow and sluggish without knowing what type of steel alloy, the damping factor thereof and sizing or chemistry makeup of the material in question. Another generic statement without any examples of outside use or product name brand comparisons other than that of his own product - a wood isolation add on shelf  which is not relative to the topic of this thread.


5 What happens to the physical relationship between the monitor, steel stand top and steel stand base and flooring when a non conductive glass material is introduced?

6 Using glass beads, are the so stated improvements over standard steel shot audible? Are the improvements over Micro-Bearing Steel audible?


Our company manufactures and sells two models of speaker stands priced at $8,000 and $15,000 per pair. The two advanced Monitor Platforms functionality and audible increases in sonic performance are based on our expanding technology involving high-speed resonance transfer using mechanical grounding principles and the understanding of Coulomb friction.

Located in the center of a 2.5 inch (outside diameter) solid brass engineered support leg is a magnetic wave guide as magnets also affect resonance movement. We have successfully introduced an additional high-speed pathway improving resonance transfer located in the most inert section of the material - the center core. These advancements are owed to loading steel shot into various speaker stands and equipment racking tube assemblies over the course of two decades and learning from those experiences.

7 Mr. Kait, does your company manufacture or even listen to various speaker stands? We are told by you many times over that you only listen to a portable player and headphones so why should we place any confidence in what you say with regards to glass beads and speaker stand performance?


For those listeners who want to try any company’s brand of steel shot in their stands, we have calculators and opinions as to size of bearings and how much fill material is required to mass your stands for high-speed resonance transfer. Phone calls and information are free of charge.

Sorry to waste your time with another Kait salesmanship rebuttal

Robert



It’s no fun being no. 2, is it Robert? And all this time you thought vibration isolation was impossible. 😬
This is fun, Geoff is just warming up, I sense the onset of
"spring theory"

Mr. Kait,

You attempt to sell your things and preach continuously about how much you know about audio but when questioned by people with knowledge and/or experience there are never answers, never any real answers…

It’s no fun being no. 2, is it Robert?


Pick a number (any number) because in your world full of limitation and lack of vision; meaningless remains always - meaningless. Just curious though, who is # 1?

Got to go… It’s Showtime!

R