No one actually knows how to lculate what speaker cable they need

Bringing this back to topic, b4icu, did you say that this doesn't work on class D amplifiers? If so, does that also go for class T as well?

And what about for budget receivers and speakers, for example, I have this amp: https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-str-dh820/specs/ and B&W 684 speakers. What would the optimal cable be for that pairing, and, in your opinion, would it be worth it?


As for bi-wiring, I'm going to test my current cable in a bi wire set up. If that offers an improvement over single wire with a solid silver jumper cable then I'll compare that against the 0 awg when it arrives. If that sounds better again, I might even bi wire the 0 awg. If it works, great. If it doesn't I can use it in another system.

I guess you’re probably right, b4icu. It’s a giant conspiracy. Very carefully choreographed by big money - and it’s worldwide. Especially in the US. You see everything, don’t you? 😬

Mr.  conradnash

What is the difference between T and D class...? D class may have a DF of up to 5,000! Using the same formula, it would suggest a cable with a cross section of an elephant's leg…

I'll rest my case and not dig into those few who wend that way.
Most Japanese receivers have a DF of 40.

As you ignored my need for cable length, I cannot answer that question. The link for the spec does not specify DF.
I'm confused. Are you going to connect this SONY receiver with two 0 AWG wires? Please follow my say over this thread and then reconsider. Thanks

Mr. geoffkait

I'm sick of your nagging. At a time you repeat other's say I have my own thinking. I learned, tested, experience and then talk. Not like you…You bring mostly makers of the audio industry that have an agenda: profit: The more the better.

I'm here with no such intension. If you would read some of the posts, you would understand that I'm truly here to give. Not to take. My only request from the members was to share. I have no idea what they will write, but still I'll keep asking for that. I start to suspect that you are here representing a firm in this industry that may not be happy if this idea catches popularity. It's also a big shame they sold their stuff for long years without having a clue of what their customers need.

The US:

I and my country (Israel) own big to the US. I know some Americans I worked with guys from GD, Boeing, and Lockheed. I found Americans to be very nice and honest people. I'm sorry to say that you are different.

You're right, sorry, I forgot cable length. The length is 2m for that system.

No, I'm not going to connect that receiver with two 0 awg wires, apologies for the confusion.

I have three "systems".
An HT/listening room: classe ct5300 -> 2.5m cable -> B&W 802
A family room TV: Sony DH820 -> 2m cable -> B&W 604
An office system: Class T amp -> 2m cable -> B&W 805

You could say I like the B&W house sound :)

The plan is to use 0 awg in the HT
Prior to that upgrade I'll try bi-wiring with my current 4mm cable. If that makes a significant improvement, and the 0 awg is an improvement over the bi-wire, then I might order more 0 awg and see what bi-wiring does with that. Again, that's all in the HT.

If the bi-wire in the cinema offers no improvement I was thinking about where else I could use that cable. I'm probably getting ahead of myself. I'm sure you're going to tell me not to bother bi-wiring with 0 awg anyway, in which case I'll likely leave it.

Thanks again for all this information and time. My new cable ships tomorrow so I'll tell you how it sounds and give you pictures later this week.