No one actually knows how to lculate what speaker cable they need

Once you have proved all cable manufacturers wrong how do you think they are going to feed their children?

I don't think you have any social conscience.

Mr. pesky_wabbit

I would like to think that the cables industry will catch up and fix the wrong, to get things done properly. Not a big deal. It is not that all the sudden we won't need cables any more. We just need a different type of cable to be made per spec. That spec. shall be calculated and not guessed.

On that issue, without undermined your concern to be fair with the cables industry, what about us, the customers that were told wrong so long and been asked to pay an arm and a leg for that? Do you think it was fair?

I also would check how we would trust such an industry that had no idea for so long, what they were doing and taking advantage of us. What about all the urbn myths that they spread efficiently. So efficiently that people brought it up on this thread as an argument! You don't mind about all that?

"In fact, damping factor means nothing."

I know close to nothing about damping factor but am perplexed by such a finite statement. Why do manufacturers of not-so-shabby products mention damping factor then? Is there any reason why a manufacturer of an amplifier would write in a promo material that "damping factor was increased from 205 to 260"? I know it is a promo material, but they get their stripes not on those numbers most of the time.

I’ve been buying high end cables for forty years and never spent as much as what it costs for the extra thick car battery type cables. The whole premise that audiophiles are being duped into paying great amounts for cables is ridiculous and simply not true. Of course, their are some audiophiles who buy very expensive cables. This is especially true since the Great Depression. Just like some people buy Ferraris and Lamborghinis. But they’re outliers. They don’t represent a trend or average or anything. Most people have learned to be financially conservative. We buy used. Hel-loo! I don’t see too many audiophiles buying $100,000 turntables, either, these days especially. You’re the only one who’s not happy. Everybody else is happy. Where’s the beef? 🐂

Cable manufacturers have provided more bang for the buck by evolving the whole cable technology, you know, by incorporating very pure metals, advanced geometries, long crystal copper, advanced welding techniques, cryogenics, controlling wire directionality and establishing data for cable burn in. What’s not to like? Revel in your time! 😀