Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
128x128jafant
gas - when the dust settles and we have accounted for the differences in effective series resistance of the new caps, coils and so forth, the frequency balance and phase response should be nearly identical to the original design. The improvements will be in the areas of ease, definition, clarity, perceived dynamic range from quieting background noise and so forth. We may lift a veil and sweeten things a little. But the tonal balance, and so forth will not substantially change.

It bears saying that we may well be improving the Thiel strong suits.
We cannot reduce the amplifier demands because the low impedance load is necessitated by the various correction circuits to cover the wide bandwidth of each driver. But, we may (if the customer wants) add a bi-amp option. When done right with the same amp for highs and lows (4 identical channels), each amplifier has a much easier time driving its load, plus any distress is sequestered to its own range. Audible improvements are certain. But additional amplification and cable requirements add expense.

Nothing comes without cost. Our intent is to jump performance league with a modest enough cost burden to justify the expenditure.

FYI: Bryston was a long-term collaborator with Thiel. The cubed (3) series is said to be strong with Thiel. The CES introduction of the 3.7 was with Bryston to high acclaim. I don't know their line, but your reported disappointment may be because of too little power / current.
Tom,

When I bought my 3.5s, I called Thiel, asking for advice on amplifiers.  Jim Thiel took the call and strongly suggested a Bryston. 

I'm now on a 4BSST2 driving my 2.7s.  Absolutely zero problems, and I'm a confirmed Bryston user. Dealing with the load imposed by that 2.6 ohm dip doesn't faze the 4B.
gasman117

my pleasure to advise you. I plan on auditioning the 4B3 soon after we clear the Thanksgiving holiday weekend.  More to follow.

Happy Listening!
brayeagle

Good to see you. A few years ago and my first of many encounters with the Bryston 4BSST, SST2,  power amp. I heard to drive without any reservation Wilson Audio Sasha and Sophia loudspeakers. At that moment in time, I knew it was special. Thank You for sharing your impressions on its capability driving your CS 2.7 loudspeakers.

Happy Listening!
I'm wondering if there are cases where what sounds like an amp problem is actually a preamp problem or impedence mismatch problem.  I'm using Bryston preamps in both of my systems.  In both cases I've run the systems with only a volume controlled DAC and with the DAC feeding a Bryston pre.  In both cases adding the preamp made more of a difference in definition than I thought it should.  This is especially true if running the amps from one set of outputs and a sub from another.  I've done this twice with different amps and speakers and both times I found the bass to lack definition from just the dac.  The problem cleared right up when I added a preamp.  It had sounded pretty much the same as an underpowered amp but that wasn't the problem.  I'm guessing the preamps are providing significantly more current and that can make a big difference in some situations.