Does anyone care to ask an amplifier designer a technical question? My door is open.


I closed the cable and fuse thread because the trolls were making a mess of things. I hope they dont find me here.

I design Tube and Solid State power amps and preamps for Music Reference. I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, have trained my ears keenly to hear frequency response differences, distortion and pretty good at guessing SPL. Ive spent 40 years doing that as a tech, store owner, and designer.
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Perhaps someone would like to ask a question about how one designs a successfull amplifier? What determines damping factor and what damping factor does besides damping the woofer. There is an entirely different, I feel better way to look at damping and call it Regulation , which is 1/damping.

I like to tell true stories of my experience with others in this industry.

I have started a school which you can visit at http://berkeleyhifischool.com/ There you can see some of my presentations.

On YouTube go to the Music Reference channel to see how to design and build your own tube linestage. The series has over 200,000 views. You have to hit the video tab to see all.

I am not here to advertise for MR. Soon I will be making and posting more videos on YouTube. I don’t make any money off the videos, I just want to share knowledge and I hope others will share knowledge. Asking a good question is actually a display of your knowledge because you know enough to formulate a decent question.

Starting in January I plan to make these videos and post them on the HiFi school site and hosted on a new YouTube channel belonging to the school.


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If a system is not broken and has serious deficiencies cables will likely not correct the problem. How can they?
I'm not suggesting cables can cure a serious deficiencies. However, since cables interact with the amplifier and the loudspeaker, they can ameliorate slight deficiencies be it amplifier, loudspeaker or environment.

Some amplifiers are nearly immune to cables, but loudspeakers are not.
Dennis Had (alive and well in Apex or Cary or someplace) hand built the best sounding amp I’ve owned over many decades of owning things. The amp’s 2nd birthday happened recently (he signs and dates these things), and I rewarded it by giving it a new tube. Although mine is one of the extremely high powered versions of his "Firebottle HO" (it’s a HO...says so right there) SEP at a massive12 watts pc (hide the children, batten down the hatches), his stuff, other than the well regarded headphone amps he makes for Moon, is subject to his whim of making one a week maybe and only selling ’em on Ebay. He currently seems to be making only a 2 to 4 watt SE version (8 watts with KT150s?), but I hear he might make something else if you ask nicely. There are no specs published by him for the Ebay stuff, and he’s nothing if not enthusiastic. I am consequently tied to highly efficient speakers, but the bondage works for me.

On another note, neither of my current fave tube guitar amps has a "standby" switch as they’re relatively low powered (18 and 15 watts respectively), so the question is: When can I get my beer? Another question I’ve asked elsewhere is how do Premium Fuses work? What do they do and why? Thanks in advance for the answer (or answers).
Hi ramtubes,

Thanks for answering my previous question.  I appreciate it.

I do have another question please...

I am building a symmetric plus/minus 70 volts dc (2 x 50 volt ac secondaries) power supply for an amplifier I am building.  Mechanical issues are giving me more trouble than electronics such as drilling holes accurately etc.  To this end, I want to build this so I do not have to change the smoothing capacitors for a LOOOONG while so I dont have to re-drill holes etc if and when they break.  I am concentrating on those specific capacitors since they are large electrolytics and hence are most likely the least reliable of the components.

In your experience & opinion, which make (and series/types) of such large electrolytics are the MOST reliable in the long term ?  I am considering about 40 to 80 milli farads at 100 volts per each side of the supply, depending on the price & physical dimensions.  I predict that these capacitors will be in a vicinity with a temperature of about 60 - 65 C most of the time.

Thanks

@bdp24 

Roger, I think you provided this information somewhere, but I can't remember where, and can't find it. So let me ask you: what is a good output impedance number to shoot for in a power amp? How low does it need to be to prevent frequency response peaks and dips due to the speaker impedance/amplifier output impedance interaction? I know the figure will be different for a speaker with a wild impedance curve (the original Quad ESL) than for one with a fairly even curve.


Great Question...  Damping of 10 which is an output impedance of 1/10 the load is a nice number and about all one can achieve in a tube amp and maintain staility. Quad achieved 20 on the model II for the ESL57 because Walker wanted 20, he said so in the speaker spec. The II is a fairly low power ampifier, yet a great one.

Futterman had a damping factor approaching 100 perhaps more. It has lots of well applied feedback which it can tollerate due to no transformer and its excellent internal bandwith (open loop bandwidth). I think it is clear that he was interested in low output impedance.

The open loop response of a tube amp is almost entirely dependent on the output transformer. When you see those peaks after 20Khz in JAs measurements that is all from the transformer actually reversing phase and making the feedback positive. Great indication of an amp that will oscillate into certain loads. Ringing on the square wave shows the same thing. 

Since you brought up the Quad 57, Walker or Baxandall did a very smart thing in the transformer to keep the impedance from going to infinity in the bass. They put 3 shorted turns of #16 wire, very loosely coupled inside the transformer. I only know because I melted the wax of one. *(by accident)* This clever idea helps tame the bass if an amplfier had very high output impedance. Even protecting the amp from overvoltage at low F so as not to arc the amp's transformer. This may take some further explanation. I had to sit down when i saw it.

Of course SS amps can have much lower output impedance, approaching that of a  heavy speaker cable or even lower than that cable. JA measures with a few feet if realistic cable.

As I write this, every time I write "damping factor" I have to back and change it to either output impedance or regulation.  I think I left it twice in the hope of shifting the tide a little bit.

The Futterman is an amazing amplifier I hope to cover in depth in the future. Waiting for questions to arise.
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I am building a symmetric plus/minus 70 volts dc (2 x 50 volt ac secondaries) power supply for an amplifier I am building. Mechanical issues are giving me more trouble than electronics such as drilling holes accurately etc. To this end, I want to build this so I do not have to change the smoothing capacitors for a LOOOONG while so I dont have to re-drill holes etc if and when they break. I am concentrating on those specific capacitors since they are large electrolytics and hence are most likely the least reliable of the components.

In your experience & opinion, which make (and series/types) of such large electrolytics are the MOST reliable in the long term ? I am considering about 40 to 80 milli farads at 100 volts per each side of the supply, depending on the price & physical dimensions. I predict that these capacitors will be in a vicinity with a temperature of about 60 - 65 C most of the time.


Some sellers are asking big money, just wait for an auction like this.

eBay item number:192627561898

Just an example. I had some 49,000 at 75 V, look for something like that. Do you have your power transformer yet? Hope its at least 6-10 amps. How do you intend to use this power?

10,000uF 100V Sangamo Electrolytic Capacitor Computer Grade Crown Power Amp BGW. These went for $8 each. No problem with age or use, they last forever. Get a few extra at this price and never worrry. Besides the diameters are pretty standard in only a few sizes so there is a lot of interchangeability.

Mallory, Sprague and other US makers made these. Its sad how many of these I had  to thrown away. Tried to sell them on eBay, no luck. Which is good for you as there are people who will let them go for nothing. I see one for sale now fot $380.. he's a newbie. :)