B&W 802 N vs. D


I apologize in advance since this is probably an old question, but can someone summarize for me the differences in the sound of the 802 N and 802 D? I am wondering if the D's are worth the extra $$ they go for.
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A comment for missioncoonery who the heck came up w/such a gay sounding name as the puppies?? That alone would make me not purchase them or do what y do call they the 3/2!

Kodg.
Dave the room , the gear, ect. are not neccessary to rate one speaker against another as he is keeping his same set-up.
any room can be made accoustically correct, my room is a perfect example. This guy is talking about switching speakers not his amp, entire set-up. So the sound from a new speaker is going to sound different wheter it be b&w, Wilsons, Focal, CA audio, ect.

What he wants to know is if the D series is superior to the N. The simple answer is yes by about 50%. B&w does not come out w/new models every year like most speaker manufactures to try to boost sales. The Natilus ran for 7 years. B&W only makes changes to their design when they can honestly improve it, not just change colors of box design, their philosy is form follows function, hence the lack of noticable difference in apperance between the N & D. Much like Porshe. If y start w/a superior design their is no reason for a complete overhaul.

Kodg.
"I could not justify spending $100,000 + more on any other speaker brand period. IMO it is not possible to improve on the sound performance you get from the 802d in a significant/real world listing experience. "

100+ grand???LOL, where do you shop!..The new Wilson is in the mid 20 grand bracket I believe,and it smokes the slow&tubby sounding 802D IMO..On the used market in the under 10 grand catagory Wilson,Dynaudio,Focal are all available and are major producers,lets not forget smaller production makers(you fill in your favorite)..My point was there are lots of quailty speakers at the same price point or less that out perform the 802D..we agree to disagree!!
I agree with Missioncoonery.

At every price point there are far better choices than B&W.

It is a dinosaur brand, much like Krell, living off a reputation.

I prefer the sound of Wilson, JM Labs, Von Schweikert, and Vandersteen speakers to B&W.

I sell none of the brands mentioned.
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I sell none of the brands mentioned.>>

Of course, none of those brands impact your sales of speakers as B&W does ;-). So probably that makes your opinion biased.