I've been listening to speakers recently to compare to my 21 year old CS3.6s -- it's a journey that I'll continue for awhile. Visiting a number of dealers, I've been amazed at all the Thiel bashing by some of these dealers - crazy claims - outright lies - claims that technology has come so far and that my speakers are obsolete - even personal criticism that I consider imaging and focus important. It's easy to see why high-end audio gets such a bad rap! Trust your ears and if you find a good dealer, support him!