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Which Class D Amplifier? PS Audio, Ghent, Nord, Merrill or other???

I’m looking for a new amp & want Class D.

I’ve seen various brands mentioned, such as PS Audio, Ghent, Nord, Merrel to name a few, but I’ve not heard any of them.

Which company is producing the best sounding Class D?
Which models should I be looking to demo?


Thanks



singintheblues
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atmasphere
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And from Merrill Audio who use the higher switching speed
" Internally the Element 118 Power Amplifier Monoblock PCB boards are manufactured to the highest excellence available and further engineered for sustaining a most stable temperature distribution. Using 8 pounds of pure copper per monoblock, the highly refined heat distribution system maintains a steady temperature environment on the PCB boards, a condition absolutely essential for linear operation."
George, looks like you made my point.

I tend to believe the manufacture of the board, EPC and it’s designer Steve Colino, who stated only heatsinking is required on these GaN devices if the switching frequency is raised. Not by what you say.
Well you're not likely  to be designing a class D amp anytime soon, so its no worries for you. For those that **do** design such amps, the idea of no heatsinks is scary to say the least, and the prudent designer that knows the amp is going to see some thermal abuse in the home will add heatsinks. To not do so is to court disaster- If it turns out that a model is overheating, the boards in the unit will have to be redesigned and that sort of thing can put a company under really fast.
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georgehifi
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George, looks like you made my point.

As Steve Colino of GaN (EPC) has said below, there is no need for any heatsink on the GaN transistors if they are used at todays switching speed. Only if you use the option to raise that switching speed to gain the extra sound quality, then there is the need for a heat sink to be mounted to the GaN transistors, as in the Merrill and Technics case.
Once again you twist things, "it’s not a good look" if you try to put s**t on this new technology while your trying to release your own Class-D amps.

Excerpts from Steve Colino’s email to me.

V.P., Strategic Technical Sales

EPC (Efficient Power Conversion Corporation)


"EPC9106 GaN FET we were able to get outstanding sound quality in the amplifier without heatsinking.
Our GaN FETs will give an even higher performance difference compared to MOSFETs in both sound quality and efficiency at 1.536 MHz switching speed.
The eGaNAMO2016 is a GaN FET amplifier platform that is capable of delivering a very high performance 200 W into an 8 Ω speaker load (400 W into 4 Ω) [8]. Its 96% system efficiency without requiring a heatsink.
You can take the value in sound quality and eliminating heatsink assembly costs while delivering your customers increased efficiency is a smaller form factor."


https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/epc/EPC9106/917-1090-ND/5036827
" THERMAL CONSIDERATIONS With this high efficiency, the EPC9106 design allows for the complete removal of any classical or historical heat sink requirement. This elimination of the heat sink also reduces the potential contribution to radiated EMI/EMC emissions.


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noble100
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Mapman: " Also I do not hear the issues George claims even at this modest cost."

Reports from those who do hear issues, with class D or T, are scarce. Rumor has it that georgehifi’s real father is an Australian sheep dog, perhaps he can hear dog whistles, too.
I’m still waiting to learn from georgehifi exactly what these supposed class D sonic shortcomings actually sound like. His very rare previous descriptions were so vague that they’re meaningless.
Has anyone else claimed to hear these issues besides him? I don’t recall anyone else chiming in to claim they hear issues with class D. I faintly recall a single poster, who didn’t have a user name of georgehifi, claiming they listened to some D amps stating that ’something was missing’ or ’it lacked soul’ but nothing specific that could be relied upon with any confidence nor even be considered a corroborating anecdotal description since I believe this was claimed only by a single poster.

Tim
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Actually not to take sides with anyone, but I have heard the sound that George mentions. However I hear this problem with all classes of amps, who use certain chassis. Chassis can and often do play a role in mid and upper end distortion. So do transformers being to close to caps.

If you take your amp (any amp) apart and spread out the components you will be able to find the distortion cause by component cramping.

Class D amps in their little squeezed boxes have problems, but also problems come with these smaller boards used.

I like Class D a lot, and there are lots of advantages over A and AB as far as mass goes obviously but there are more steps to take in the mechanics of most of these amps that have a ways to go. I'm working on a few of these issues as we speak and can say with almost certainty the amp I will use for our Rev Combo will be Class D, the low end amp already is Class D.

Again a very important thread, minus any absolute opinions. There's good in all but sometimes we over look the simple things when designing.

Michael Green

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