Paradigm Persona series


I'm beginning to poke around and gather opinions and information about a "super speaker" to replace my aging Thiel 2.4s.  I like the idea of bass dsp room correction and I am a bit of a point source type imaging nut (thus the Thiels).  So among other choices I've been looking at the Paradigm Persona series specifically the powered 9H with room correction for the bass.  However I'm skeptical of the "lenses" i.e. pierced metal covers on the midrange and tweeter specifically because of Paradigm's claim that such screens "screen out" "out of phase" musical information.  The technology in the design seems superlative but I just can't get past the claim re out of phase information and the midrange and tweeter covers.  What could possibly be the science behind this claim?  It just seems like its putting a halloween moustache on the mona lisa given the fact that the company is generally a technology driven company.
pwhinson
I listened to them toed in a bit, and if you look around you'll read a bunch of reviewers/users are setting them up facing straight ahead to avoid an overly bright presentation. Apart from the brightness, I think the Paradigms are *very* stiff competition for the much more expensive Wilson Sabrina.

Actually ahofer said in this post on this thread that they sounded bright in your shop. Of course you would say they didn't sound bright. He said they did. Plus, bright is bright and is not accurate. The Stereophile measurements show it, the measurements ahofer linked show it, and my experiences listening to it match what the measurements show. If you like that, great but don't say that it is accurate. 
Translation
McIntosh is slightly veiled, rounded and warm  (I had an all Mac system for years) and you need that to mitigate the brightness and harshness in the Paradigms.
Actually Cmsgolf, bright can be very accurate, if your recording for example was from,  Deustshe Graphaphon, and made in the mid 80's or a Telarc,  digital recording in the mid 80's tended to sound bright due to the digital encoders  and mixing consoles at the time, and they sound bright on the playback that is accurate as those are the sound of those recordings.

You also failed to understand that even if  the gentleman found them "bright" we can tune that out by something as simple as a playback change in Roon. 

We did not have the time to really go into and explore changes that can be made by playing with different gear and software  changes which affect playback.

The demo was a bit rushed and we started with a different set of speakers before switching to the Personas and then we swtiched electronics, we encouraged Mr. Hofer to come back for a much greater extended session where we can play a wider variety of tracks on different gear.

And as hell is freezing over, we are agreeing with grgr4blu on something and he is acutally being nice,  that Mcintosh tends to sound warm and veiled a bit, and that Mcintosh or similarly voiced electronics, actually Naim sounds a bit like that in a good way are the keys to making the Personas sound good.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ Persona dealers



Let's try this Dave and Troy.

Given the same electronics, the Persona will typically sound brighter than most other speakers.

So yes, electronics matter, but the bottom line is most people will find the Persona's bright given a head to head with 95% of other speakers.

Even your system matching genius, uber cables, stands, and decoupling isoacoustic magic and power conditioning.... won't change that.  Given a head to head with the same electronics - they are bright to most people.

I don't really think anyone has said they are bad speakers.
It is rather amusing to see people so animated about disparaging the Persona line. We are just talking about audio speakers here right?

Whatever the case, for the folks who want to help others from making the mistake of buying a Persona and then having their hearing diminished. How about stating what would be a better choice? Maybe describe what you own so people can calibrated what your ears are happy with.

I mean stating this is, "bad, bad, bad", only can carry a discussion (maybe an argument) so far. How about some good options from some of you golden ears.