+1 nonoise.
Nicely put Michael
Nicely put Michael
Double blind test- over a month- could this be a reliable test for any equipment?
For me DBT and ABX is just completely pointless from a normal end user perspective. Let me put it this way if you do any type of test that is different than your normal listening conditions and conflicts with your experience in normal listening conditions are you going to change what choice you make? If I test Cables/Amps/ Pre pro in my normal setup in normal listening conditions and like the difference it makes during normal listening and then do an ABX/DBT and get the usual null results I’m not going to change the equipment back to the ones I liked less due to a DBT/ABX. Why would I downgrade my normal listening experience due to ABX/DBT? If my experiences are consistent where this cable sounds better to me before and after I do an ABX?DBT why on earth would I go back to something that sounds worse in normal listening conditions? Seems like a parlour trick to me designed to confuse people and mask real world and even audibly measurable differences, let’s see how we can get NULL results on everything possible |
Yes, let's make ourselves even more anachronistic by putting our heads down back into the sands of subjectivity. Down with blind listening tests! Not our reality. On the other hand we can be grateful that aeronautics, automobiles, broadcasting, computing, engineering, healthcare, and satellite navigation don't follow suit! Audio is not life and death, so there is nothing seriously wrong with following subjective impressions, but only as long as you remember that - that is all they are - subjective impressions. On the other hand if you are looking for truth, then the scientific method is a better way. One that has been adopted by the civilised world for centuries. |
cd318421 Yes, let’s make ourselves even more anachronistic by putting our heads down back into the sands of subjectivity. Down with blind listening tests! Not our reality. On the other hand we can be grateful that aeronautics, automobiles, broadcasting, computing, engineering, healthcare, and satellite navigation don’t follow suit! >>>>>Do you think Boeing used blind testing on the software for the 737s that crashed? On the other hand if you are looking for truth, then the scientific method is a better way. One that has been adopted by the civilised world for centuries. >>>>>Double blind testing is not inherently the scientific method any more than any other kind of testing. Nice try! Besides results of subjective listening is empirical data, also part of the scientific method. 🤗 |
Thier certainly is a difference between R@D and testing to come up with a product or test Airplanes compared to how a normal human would listen to music at home. In what scenario would a person take back an AMP/Cable that they heard a positive difference in normal listening conditions but got a Null result in a DBY/ABX test? Regardless of a the DBT or ABX test I’m going to keep whatever products end up sounding better in my system. I just don’t see the actual practical use for them for normal consumers cause no matter the test results I’m keeping what sounds better in my system |