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Vibratory or Not?

This is a discussion that for me began on the Stereophile forum which went horribly wrong in my opinion. I was wondering though if this same topic could be discussed here as it comes up a lot in one form or another. My background has been about vibratory tuning as far back as the 70's work in the recording industry and continued into home audio and beyond. The audio signal is one that can be easily tuned, I doubt there is much room there for debate, but we will see, it's Audiogon after all. This being the case I have always concluded that the audio signal is vibratory so has anyone I have ever worked with. It's a common and sometimes even daily practice for someone here to make a vibratory adjustment changing the sound which is obvious to all.

On some of these forum threads however you will see posts saying to get rid of the vibration, without any explanation as to how to remove vibration without altering the audio signal. Every vibratory move I have ever seen done changes the performance of the sound. I've also been a part of the variables of the audio signal during play in real time. If the audio signal is not vibratory how does it change?

I invite you to discuss the vibratory structure and nature of the audio signal.

thanks, lets keep trolling to a minimum please

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michaelgreenaudio OP
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LOL, the star sound card. You crack me up sometimes. You should get a list of all the employees who have been let go from RoomTune after working there for only 9 months 20 some years ago to use in your spins.

Better yet, I'm hoping you and us become friends so we can help audiophiles together and be able to talk through things when there are misunderstandings of communication.

MG


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No where we stand is just like Glupson said in the first post here and audionuttoo reaffirmed.

"Sound is, in the simplest term, a vibration. No vibration, no sound."

Where we disagree with you Geoff is when you say "vibrations should be killed" or however you say that phrase. What is it "a good vibration is a dead vibration" or something like that.

Vibrations are very important because it is a word that can be used in the out of tune sense as well as the in-tune sense.

MG

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Geoff - Earlier you stated how you were an early customer of Michael's.  It seems like you're no longer a believer (a tunee!?) and I'm wondering what happened?  Did you initially hear the benefits, or were they never there?  I'd really like to hear the story.
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Glubson was obviously talking about acoustic waves in the room. Glubson has this knack for stating the obvious.
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Well Glupson did a good job in this case, because he was correct. Remove vibratory from audio and there is no sound. The electricity to the system wouldn't work, the parts that host the signal wouldn't work, the drivers on your speakers wouldn't work nor would the hairs in your ears work.

There would be no pressure in your room for you to hear and we wouldn't be here talking about it cause there would be no Earth, the Earth vibrates :)

Geoff you're trying to remove too big of a part of nature to make your point. Hey an "Audio Point" :)

Folks in audio saying "kill vibrations" makes no sense because that's what audio is. If you kill vibratory interaction the whole planet goes down the drain.

MG

but of course that could be me vs 20,000 somethings or whatever that trolling was LOL

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