douglas_schroeder
For sure and amen. This is something I was sure had to be the case as for years I struggled and gave up long ago in frustration when it seemed impossible due to all the physical constraints of room resonance. The problem is being stuck in the outdated, false, counterproductive and doomed to failure paradigm of one sub. Or even two. Or anything where the focus is on treating really low bass the same as really high treble.
Which is what everyone does. Despite the fact it does not work. Despite the fact it flies in the face of human perception. As Duke and others have pointed out many times, high frequency sounds are heard with such precision we can determine location from within a range of a few milliseconds, yet we cannot hear low frequency sounds that brief at all.
At all!
Another really big problem with the sub approach is even if you somehow with EQ or whatever manage to get fairly smooth response at one location, it always results in really big modes at other locations. But of course the energy in those locations takes time to dissipate, and as it does so it reverberates around the room which takes time which because of the way we hear things we interpret as mushy or slow bass. Someone could tell me that's what's going on. I could read about and understand that's what's going on. But to actually experience it, that is a different thing altogether!
We have all had the experience of the person who comes over and is so shocked to hear imaging for the first time they stare in disbelief or even sometimes get up walk over and touch a speaker. I had a guy one time ask me three times how many speakers, finally get up and walk over and lift the blanket off the TV. Convinced there was a speaker hidden behind it. Well recently between the Herron, ECT, PHT, HFT, etc, etc mine had gotten to the point where sometimes even I would open my eyes to check and see.
But that feeling of fidelity, even though I knew it was missing a lot deeper down until now I had no idea all I was hearing was just the thin skin on the onion. Which already seems to me to be a nice big juicy Yakima Sweet. So hell yeah I will be playing and tweaking. And if my eyes water it'll be from tears of joy.
You are entering a realm where a LOT of action takes place, ... you are realizing how much of upper end performance is left on the table by persons who discount LF.
For sure and amen. This is something I was sure had to be the case as for years I struggled and gave up long ago in frustration when it seemed impossible due to all the physical constraints of room resonance. The problem is being stuck in the outdated, false, counterproductive and doomed to failure paradigm of one sub. Or even two. Or anything where the focus is on treating really low bass the same as really high treble.
Which is what everyone does. Despite the fact it does not work. Despite the fact it flies in the face of human perception. As Duke and others have pointed out many times, high frequency sounds are heard with such precision we can determine location from within a range of a few milliseconds, yet we cannot hear low frequency sounds that brief at all.
At all!
Another really big problem with the sub approach is even if you somehow with EQ or whatever manage to get fairly smooth response at one location, it always results in really big modes at other locations. But of course the energy in those locations takes time to dissipate, and as it does so it reverberates around the room which takes time which because of the way we hear things we interpret as mushy or slow bass. Someone could tell me that's what's going on. I could read about and understand that's what's going on. But to actually experience it, that is a different thing altogether!
We have all had the experience of the person who comes over and is so shocked to hear imaging for the first time they stare in disbelief or even sometimes get up walk over and touch a speaker. I had a guy one time ask me three times how many speakers, finally get up and walk over and lift the blanket off the TV. Convinced there was a speaker hidden behind it. Well recently between the Herron, ECT, PHT, HFT, etc, etc mine had gotten to the point where sometimes even I would open my eyes to check and see.
But that feeling of fidelity, even though I knew it was missing a lot deeper down until now I had no idea all I was hearing was just the thin skin on the onion. Which already seems to me to be a nice big juicy Yakima Sweet. So hell yeah I will be playing and tweaking. And if my eyes water it'll be from tears of joy.