Axpona 2019


List your best stops on Friday. Lobby bar not included.

1. Sanders
2. Spatial
3. Vimberg 

I am barely 1/2 thru as of Friday eve.

I need yours asap for the weekend please.
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laitk, audiotroy,
Thanks, No wonder I though the T&A looked and sounded very good.
At least I have good taste! LOL!

ozzy


Although I haven't heard many say it,  MBL sounded the best to my ears. Just seemed right across all frequencies with zero harshness. I am sensitive to high frequencies due to tinnitus and I felt no affect. My biggest surprise was when I asked what they were using for power conditioning and the guy doing the demo said "nothing". That had to be some dirty power on Saturday. 

I also loved the Avantguard horns, but on one track I noticed the symbols coming from the far edges of the soundstage,  both left and right. Bothered me once I noticed it.

Disappointed in almost all the ballrooms.
as my second audio show in 30 years I did enjoy axpona but I'd probably not go again unless I was specifically wanting to hear a speaker that I was seriously interested in buying and was otherwise unable to audition (i live close so could consider it an audition of sorts). For me personally the unfamiliarity of most music meant I really could not decipher what I was hearing in relation to the systems average signature. Many rooms were playing midrange centered music with good recordings often just vocal and a couple of instruments so with eyes closed I'd have been hard pressed to know if I was listening to a 1.5K shoe box or a couple of 50K giants to be honest, I'm always amazed at how big some small speakers can sound if the music has limited bass.

Hi Big

An excellent post! I get concerned when folks come away from a trade show as if it was a listening experience of meaning and judgement. I think they're a good thing but for critical evaluation? Not so much.

I'm also concerned with some dealers of late. Posting with one yesterday I asked where their dedicated listening rooms were and they didn't know what I was talking about. A room full of speakers and components is not a dedicated listening room. In playback a dedicated listening room means that room is "dedicated" to that particular system and setup. It was like I was insulting them when I explained they didn't have any dedicated rooms for listening.

Sometimes I wonder if this HEA thing will make it past the next few years. Sure makes one appreciate having a real system in a real setup though, regardless of the spins the industry has created.

Michael Green

Michael your attitude is counter to most of the industry and what most real audiophiles can actually do.

Most people don’t have the luxury of having a room totally devoted to audio in a way that you would espouse.

Most people’s listening room is their Living Room, or spare bedroom, sometimes with a few modifications in terms of room tuning, lucky are the few audiophiles with rooms devoted strictly to their music systems.

We are not disagreeing with you that it is nice to be able to pull off such a room.

We have heard purpose built rooms which were mediocre at best some were over damped, vs some real rooms that sounded excellent. There is a lot you can do with a some carefully placed furniture, rugs, bookcases, and a few room tuning accessories, yours included.

The point of a show is to get a gauge of what products may sound like in a way that product X will intrigue you to move to take the  next logical step of wanting to check that product out in a controlled environment, or not, and in that way regional or national shows are a valuable tool. The reality today is that there are large parts of the country where there are no  audio dealers or the dealers selection is very sparse or the dealer sells good speakers but doesn't have complimentary electronics.

We are not saying that the room isn’t important it is however, many audiophiles face room constraints that their rooms are too big, too live, too small, and they don’t have the luxury of being able to employ tons of tube traps, or acoustic panels because their wives or girlfriends would object to their Living Rooms looking like recording studios.

So yes you can have a mutually exclusive dedicated music room where you can hide away from the world and listen or you can choose to tweak up a Family Room or Living Room and still get excellent sound in the light of day without excluding others from listening with you.

One of the reasons for the explosion of Sonos is that music everywhere brings the joy of music to a much wider audience.

We are not saying that because we endorse Sonos but higher quality streaming products encourage others to join in on the fun hence we recommend Naim who makes excellent streaming loudspeakers and amplifiers.

Another trend is electronic room correction which we feel will still not obviate the need for room tuning but goes a long way into making shitty rooms sound better without having to employ panels everywhere.

The demo at AXPONA with the Anthem STR integrated and a pair of the Persona 3F was done in an untreated room and the sound quality of this little system was tremendous because of the advantages of room tuning done in the digital domain.

The demo with Legacy at the New York audio show also demonstrated that power of electronic room correction. The system of the Legacy Aeris combined with a $10k Raven integrated amplifier and a $5k Wavelet room correction processor/dac was roughly a $35k-40k package.

This system was pure magic and they had 0 acoustical treatments in a regular sized Hotel Room and the sound was thrilling, a huge soundstage, all frequencies were balanced, the system sounded better than many $100k setups we have heard.

So Michael you should welcome any and all audiophiles into this hobby with the understanding of what works for some doesn’t work for all us included.


Dave and Troy

Audio Doctor NJ