Sorry to ask this SACD question, but


What equipment do I need to play the Stereo layer on a  SACD at 176.4khz .  I have searched the forum for more than an hour and I'm stumped.  Lets say I have a https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022CD1000B/Yamaha-CD-S1000.html?search=sacd

Or a  https://www.crutchfield.com/p_033DCD1600/Denon-DCD-1600NE.html?search=sacd 


and I want to use a  Schitt Bifrost Multibit DAC,  https://www.schiit.com/products/bifrost instead of the internal DAC.  What else do I need?


What else do I need to play  SACD at 176.4khz 


Please don't flame me, I really am stumped.


JD



 

128x128curiousjim
Best way to hear DSD is via ripped or purchased files playing via a streamer or computer through a stereo or multichannel DAC you can use for example an early PS3 or Oppo 105  to rip. Or buy from native DSD online etc.

Most importantly the best sound is achieved playing it as DSD not PCM so outputting 24/176 is not ideal.

Oppo can play SACDs via its internal DACS and output via RCAs and sounds pretty good. Oppos can also output DSD over HDMI but this is pointless as the AV amp you connect to will downconvert to PCM and most do this at 16/44

SACD uses copy protection to prevent the data being sent via a digital cable as others have said. Early examples of digital connection were proprietary to Sony (SCD XA9000es) and DCS using FireWire cables. HDMI can be used to send it as it has the High Definition Copyright Protection standard. 

However it was possible with early PS3 see thread here and that may be your cheapest option.
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/using-ps3-as-an-sacd-player-voice-cancellation-issue.214006/


Glupson

Correct!

I said that about 20 posts ago!

My Pioneer does EXACTLY that!

If a digital cable is connected, sacd output to the analog outputs is shut off.

It is very likely the OPPO is the same.
 uberwaltz,

I did everything my manual said. I did everything you said, and the Tv screens says yes, but the speakers say no.  The CD layer plays just fine. I added a digital rca, CD. I added aToslink, CD. RCA only, nothing.  
You just said that the RCA’s are shut off when you plug in a digital or Toslink cable.  Not on mine.  Could the problem be there?  

From you and others are saying, I’m beginning to think it’s the 
Oppo.

Hello Google my old friend.

Thanks again for your help.

JD
glupson,

The Oppo has an HDMI audio output and a HDMI Video output.
The audio has never been plugged in.

Logically, what you are saying makes sense. But it still is working in this case. As I just said to uberwaltz, I am getting the feeling that the issue is with the spinner.

Thank for your input.

JD 
Jim

Only one thing I can add possible as both myself and Glupson have said.

I fear that if the OPPO sees ANY digital cable plugged in regardless of menu settings it will not output over rca.

So only suggestion I have left is to make sure you ONLY have the rca analog outs plugged in while trying, if the hdmi is plugged in or a toslink or a spdif it will likely be the cause.

If that has already been tried or does not work then yes Google may be your best friend!

When I said rca are shut off if a digital cable is plugged in I meant just to the sacd layer, it would still output over rca from the cd layer . Yes it is confusing, blame the corporations involved in the money side of it!

Sorry it is giving you so much grief!