I once had the integrated version of the Nagra 300b. It didn't sound like a 300b..it was pretty linear if a 300b can be called linear. With that being said, it had a solid state pre section and the speakers were Stenheims. It was nice and reasonably dynamic within its power band. I like the combo but I haven't had seller's remorse like I have every time I've ever sold a Leben. LOL
Which 300b amplifier for Devore O/96
I am looking to upgrade (and simultaneously downsize) from Coincident Frankenstein Mk2 300b SET monoblock amps to one of these stereo amplifiers.
These are the four candidates so far: Nagra 300p, Luxman MQ-300, Wavac EC-300B, Air Tight ATM-300R, Shindo Cortese 300b
My preamp/dac is Bricasti M12 and my speakers are Devore O/96.
I am not looking nor interested in any other 300b amps at this point.
If anyone has compared one or more of these amps (esp on an Orangutan) do chime in.
Where I live I can probably demo the Nagra and the Air Tight but nothing else.
Thoughts?
These are the four candidates so far: Nagra 300p, Luxman MQ-300, Wavac EC-300B, Air Tight ATM-300R, Shindo Cortese 300b
My preamp/dac is Bricasti M12 and my speakers are Devore O/96.
I am not looking nor interested in any other 300b amps at this point.
If anyone has compared one or more of these amps (esp on an Orangutan) do chime in.
Where I live I can probably demo the Nagra and the Air Tight but nothing else.
Thoughts?
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Atmasphere 5-15-2019 Ralph, if I recall correctly your speakers are 98 db/1 watt/1 meter, and the O/96 is indeed spec’d 2 db less than that, at 96 db. However John Atkinson’s measurements in Stereophile showed the O/96 to have a sensitivity of only 91 db/2.83 volts/1 meter. For its 10 ohm nominal impedance that would correspond to about 92 db/1 watt/1 meter. Which would seem to give further credence to your (and JSautter’s) advocacy of more power than most SETs can provide. Essrand 5-15-2019 To state a fairly obvious point, I would just suggest that you make a point of including recordings having particularly wide dynamic range in your assessment. Such as many recordings of classical symphonic music, if you listen to that type of music. For a given average volume, recordings of music having narrow dynamic range and/or recordings that have been engineered with a lot of dynamic compression are of course less likely to reveal the issues Ralph and JSautter have referred to. Good luck. Regards, -- Al |
My recommendation to OP. Get the NOS Wes 300B (6k$ or more) made before 1960, then Coincident Frankenstein will be alive again. Or you can get Line Magnetic 508 or 805, then you have lot of room for tube rolling. After tube rolling, LM amp sounds very close to Silbatone 300B SET which will blow up Nagra. |
To state a fairly obvious point, I would just suggest that you make a point of including recordings having particularly wide dynamic range in your assessment. Such as many recordings of classical symphonic music, if you listen to that type of music. For a given average volume, recordings of music having narrow dynamic range and/or recordings that have been engineered with a lot of dynamic compression are of course less likely to reveal the issues Ralph and JSautter have referred to:) OK. These are all on LP. Wagner Gutterdämmerung, London, Solti conducting, final scene (Immolation scene)Verdi Requiem Soria Series RCA, side 1 track 2 Dies Irae Black Sabbath 'Paranoid' German white Vertigo press, side 1 track 1.Canto General America Insurrecta Atma-Sphere 3-001 Play any of these anywhere near a satisfying volume and that power problem is easily revealed. |
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