Speaker upgrade question - Wilson vs Focal

@gochurchgo

You mentioned in your above post that they have Naim running some Wamms in another room. Were you referring to those giant flagship Wilson Wamm? Cause I don’t think there’s a single dealer that will have the Wilson Wamm on display for demo due to the price and size of these speakers. These are statement loudspeakers from Wilson Audio and are only made 50 pairs for the whole world. They retail for $685k per pair. The Wilson Wamms are cost-no-object or price-no-object design loudspeakers.

When you said the Naim driving the Wamms, were those the Naim Statement preamp & monoblock amps? I would imagine those must have been the Naim Statement gears driving the Wilson Wamm speakers if they were indeed the Wamm. Those Wilson Wamm deserve to be paired with something like the Naim Statement preamp & monoblock amps combo, which are also cost-no-object or price-no-object design preamp & amps. If they were indeed the Wilson Wamm driven by the Naim Statement preamp & monoblock amps, did you get to hear them? How did they perform? What front end source components did they use for the setup?

I myself happen to own the Naim Statement NAC S1 preamp & Naim Statement NAP S1 monoblock amps driving the Magico M6 speakers in my reference stereo setup/system. The Naim Statement gears are the absolute best and most musical sounding gears I’ve ever heard and owned, they are very very expensive but extraordinary, highly musically engaging and involving.
All Naim gears are spectacular.

I'm a big Naim fan. I also have the Naim Uniti Nova integrated in my bedroom setup running the Sonus Faber 1 bookshelf (standmount) speakers. The Naim Uniti Nova is basically a digital music streamer/DAC/integrated amp all in a single chassis. It is an all-in-one solution or a single box solution. All you need is a pair of speakers and speaker wires. 
The Uniti Nova comes equipped with built-in Tidal streaming app and is Roon ready. 

There’s hardly any Naim dealer in the world who would these Naim Statement preamp & monoblock amps on display for demo due to the cost or price of these Naim Statement preamp & amps. These are cost-no-object or price-no-object design gears and took almost 10 years in the designing and making of these Naim Statement products. I would imagine the Wilson Wamm / Naim Statement combo will provide the absolute best overall end sonic results and musicality period.

Carey the Wilson and the Rockports are both excellent loudspeakers.

The new DAW do seem to sound way better than previous versions, we have never been big WIlson Fans, the DAW at Axpona in one room with ARC was a fantastic setup, the room was very long which really helped.

The Rockports were in a couple of room but all of these rooms were much smaller.

Previously felt that the Wilsons did not have the uber resolution that we tend to like. The Rockports do seem to have a bit more detail. Both speakers produce excellent bass with a bit more lower bass boom in the Wilsons.

The best speakers for the money at Axpona was the new Vimbergs from Tidal. They were amazing, huge sound stage. deep bass, totally three dimensional, the most realistic portrayal of a piano at the entire show was with the Vimbergs, to us they felt like a blend of the best of both of th3 Wilsons and the Rockports speakers you can also get them with a pure diamond tweeter, this is the world’s best high frequency transducer, smooth yet detailed.

Before I would purchase anything I would seek out a pair.

Tidal is known for extraordinary attention to detail and superb craftsmanship.

One interesting tidbit is Jeff Fritz from Sound stage moved from Rockport to the Tidal Vimbergs for his new listening room. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

Audiotroy-Are the Vimbergs as easy to drive as a Lumenwhite Kyara or the powered Von Schweikert VR55K? Those are two speakers which I think could replace my Legacy Focus. My room size has decreased to 19’ X 15’ X 10’ net listening area with 17" thick, sound engineered walls/doors/no other openings for smooth bass reproduction down to 30 Hz. The Kyara and Von Schweikert larger speakers I heard were outstandingly great sounding. Are the Vimberg’s nearly as good for half the price?

Speakers I would not consider are B&Ws, Magicos or Wilsons. Power hogs to boot.

Fleschler, an active speaker is always going to be easy to drive vs any conventional passive loudspeaker. 

The Vinberg sounded better than the Kyara at Axpona, and costs  less. it was hard to really gauge the Kyara at Axpona vs the Vimbergs because the rooms were so different but our experience with hearing Lumenwhite at various shows they sounded very good, but not as amazing sounding as the Vimbergs, the setup at Axpona with the Vimbergs was extraordinary. 

Other than the image height, the Vimbergs were the match of any of the really expensive loudspeakers at the show. 

Even though the Vimberg and Lumenwhites  are very similar loudspeakers in terms of drivers, totally different crossover designs and cabinet construction in terms of pricing the Vimbergs are less expensive and their are two different sized versions for different sized rooms. 

The  smaller Mimo at $29k would be ideal for your size room.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

I read on the stereo-magazine issue 20 technical review that the Mino has a DC resistor at 4 ohms but is nearly ruler flat 5 to 7 ohm speaker at 89.4 db SPL. Looks easy to drive with a 130 w. tube monoblocks. Also, it is -3db at 37Hz.  My new audio room was built to maintain a 30Hz cycle flat, then dissipate below (the custom audio room is built to the highest standards for listening use only $175,000).    The Tonda has larger woofers and mid-woofer.   It is reportedly priced at $29,000  (the Mino at $23,000).  I suspect the Tonda would be a better fit.  I have no technical specs on it other than it is 1 db more efficient but 10% more difficult to drive at 3.7 ohm minimum.  Still, easy for my amps.   Have you heard the Von Schweikert V55K active?  If you have, how does it compare to the Vimbergs?  The Luminwhites are from a smaller company.  I would prefer a larger company's products in case a driver failed.   Thanks