Where are the subs?


In listening to the Bach Toccata and Fugue BMV 565, I was struck by how well the organ pedal notes are reproduced since I moved my primary setup to another room. I complemented myself on a fine job of integrating the Velodyne HGS-10 subs with the KEF Ref 1s, using 40 Hz low-pass with 24 dB/octave. But as I thought about it, I didn’t recall connecting the SMS-1 bass manager to the Ayre KX-5 Twenty preamp. I checked. The subs were not connected. The Ref 1s alone where reproducing that satisfying bass. Amazing for stand mounted monitors. I sure as hell didn’t expect that. To confirm, I played the Saint-Seans 3rd Symphony. Same result. Makes me wonder if I need bother connecting the subs.
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Good fronts under power don’t need the sub to bring the bass. Tune the sub below the fronts, way down. Listen and bring it up to complete not cancel the bass in the fronts. 
Buy a real quality sub , the new Svs SB 3000 at$995 
will beat anything under $1500 once dialed in. And has a great app
and I owned several very good subs from REL, JL Audio 
who else will give you free shipping ,45 day return with Free return shipping ,  and a 5 year parts and labor warranty  just check it out .

Here’s what’s  interesting to me: Your post was simply to observe and marvel. Many thoughts and recommendations on how to improve your sound with new investments, changes in system, and  and specific brand recommendations. What you are experiencing, it appears, is the assumption that you wanted advice, new gear, or ways to improve upon it.  I have experienced the same thing w/ room-gear interaction and it’s  truly remarkable... reveling and sharing those moments is what it’s all about. Sometimes we miss the forest for the trees.

Happy listening!