Can we finally put Reel to Reel out of its misery? Put it to rest people.

orpheus
If a good CD is recorded to reel, the playback is pure "analog". What you have, is a noise free LP.

>>>>>Unfortunately for that theory the noise and distortion occurs as soon as the laser reads the CD. And the missing information and noise cannot be corrected by any means. The best laid plans of mice and men oft go awry.

Some people take that word "opinion" off into the wild blue yonder; however, since most of us agree that R2R is the ultimate reference in regard to recorded music, we can proceed from that point.


Digital or analog is not an audible difference or qualification, since all music is analog, which is why digital must be converted into analog in order to be music, otherwise it would be pure noise.

It's the quality of the components in this conversion that determine the quality of the music. While the audible difference between SS and Tubes has some merits; lately, that "digital", "analog" has gotten very foggy. An example is recording a CD to reel; that playback is 100% analog, that's not opinion, but scientific fact, and the proof lies in the manner in which that process is carried out to it's conclusion.

Although I rest my case on science, the bottom line audio speaks for it self, in which case all one needs is a good pair of discerning ears.

SS versus tubes; here is a case of some like vanilla while others like strawberry. While I can accept a tube pre, and a SS amp; I wont go beyond that; never a SS pre-amp. Many times companies will manufacture a SS amp, but with a tube pre.

In the case of tube phonos, it is the tube itself that determines the end result, as much as the quality of the unit; which is why "Uncle Kevin" is always promoting tubes.


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These tubes will make a big difference in a tube phono, and that's not my opinion but an auditory fact; as a matter of fact, I will live without my TT until these are back in the phono.

All is not opinion, there are some clear audible facts.

Orpheus.

While I do not question your logic that still did not answer my question of what or who defines a "good CD"

Are we defining from a personal viewpoint or a provenance of recording viewpoint?

Which is where I was going with opinion.

Your opinion and my opinion could be polar opposite on that count and yet both could be equally correct dependent on the criteria of said " good CD".

@sleepwalker65

Chakster you probably can’t find your rap on R2R, but sound quality was never a requirement for rap anyhow.

Oh, it’s you again with your favorite topic.

Sound Quality is a requirement for any genre of music even for a "grandpa country records" you may listening to.

The worst ever "music" often comes from people with the best systems, especially from digital officionados (imo). When i watch those reports from Audio Shows (USA or EU) on youtube i’m getting sick of the selection of music, it’s awful and they have no taste at all (as much as their designers who’s working on all those ugly looking modern "high-end" equipment).

90% of my record collection is properly recorded original pressings of rare 70’s Jazz-Funk, Soul, Soundtracks, Latin Jazz ...some of those obscure old records cost more than your audio components. And none of them available on Reel2Reel tapes, except for the impossible to find studio mastertapes.

The choice of music or R2R tapes is very limited, let’s face it.
The choice of music on vintage vinyl is much wider, fact.

If i could buy what i like on R2R tapes for the price of original vinyl i would love to use tapes, but i think with so small choice of music it’s pointless. I don’t listen to everything just for the sake of quality and my heart belongs to the music from the 70’s (mainly played by black musicians).

P.S. You’d better discuss rap and hip-hop with your kids, each generation has their own music, when older generation blame new generation’s music it sounds like blabling of old f**ts and this is what you’re doing.

Uberwaltz, from a technical point of view, early CD's were not as good as today's CD's. But just as the case of a technically inferior record, you would wind up with the same result; this usually consists of the whole batch, not just one record.

If it sounds bad it's bad, if it sounds good, it's good; whatever your determination in regard to this fact is good enough for me.

Here is a CD I have determined is good from a musical point of view (which is arbitrary) but I also stand behind this CD as very good from a technical point of view; Pat Metheney & Anna Maria Jopek "Upojenie";


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NXc9Gzg8hY